First of all it says "you have limitless 4-Dimensional energy at your disposal", it might very easily be a pool from where to draw from indefinitely. On top of that, if he were to simply blow up with limitless 4-Dimensional energy he would have destroyed the universe. We know for a fact the explosion had the purpose to hack the planetoid-sized machine villain, it's likely that the explosion was to have the energy reach all his body rather than it being a simple explosion, and every part of the blast being designed to stop that villain means that there was control put into it, which makes too unlikely that it would have harmed Supes like that, as they're allies.
They're inside Mageddon's body so obviously it wasn't reaching the entire universe, and even then, they were at the epicenter of the thing. Even if it was just about his energy reserves, it wouldn't matter because it being self destruction would likely mean using up all of his energy reserves.
The fact that Death and Lois know it happened is worthless because you're portraying that as if it was binary; as if either A) it happened or B) it was a dream & didn't happen. It is a dream and it did happen at the same time, and the disingenuous way this was portrayed completely neglects the rules for the dream established in the story that make all the feats there inapplicable.
Lois was talking referring to physical things being able to kill Supes, I don't know why she'd just bring up what was just a "mental illusion" as an example.
Death says that in defeating it, Super was defeating psychological demon in his mind, which can easily mean that doing the latter (defeating poetic psychological demons) leads to the former (defeating Death), so this again supports how Supes wins by overcoming the way he was feeling about certain things.
Death clearly wasn't being serious, given how he follows it with "Fine, go on believing that, if it gives you comfort"
Death asks to consider that there might be a place where mind and matter intersect; where that which hides in your dreams takes form, implying that is the place where they were before. Dreams & mind-based things becoming real at random is pretty clear on how this had no solid rules, and that nothing from this comic should scale in reality. It really is as simple as "it's just a dream", this is just the long version.
I think you're mistinterpreting the statement, as given how Death states that what happened before wasn't purely psychological, and that follows it with "But have you considered that there might be a place where mind and matter intersect", as well as also stating that "Where that hides in our dreams -- takes form?". Implying everything prior to be physical.
The feat's not even Low 2-C, what was destroyed has no reason to be the timeline rather than the universe and Supes even drifts through time right after it, and we had no context of the specifics of the feat like how the universe was destroyed, it might have easily been in a way that 1 human-sized body taking it is not taking the full tier of the event, like the black hole being too big, or if the black hole even caused the end of the universe and it wasn't Death instead.
While you could just see the "
Universe last moments" as in-context to entropy taking everything out, this is unlikely as we see this is when everything actually just goes blank. This clearly isn't any normal Black Hole either,
as it has affected time, either making there no time at all (implying the space-time was destroyed) or merging all time together.
Clark is still at the core of this dying sun for a while, and to return,
he has to push through the barriers of space and time. Could be used to further imply space and time being gone.
Didn't read the story, but those wailings called my attention to check just how much does it take me to find that he's in variable control of his action or in great pain.
And it was the former as soon as he shows up. John Henry is constantly trying to regain control while his Imperiax part does the same, hence he screams things like "I AM the POWER!" and "...I AM IMPERIEX REBORN!", he's kinda gaslighting himself to make things easier. This again is very disingenuous as this key fact isn't pointed out while Supes do holding back is. The thing about scaling is that 2 characters going all out against each other is a standard assumption if it isn't stated or implied and nothing else contradicts that idea. Here the idea is contradicted, so no scaling. It should be
that easy.
The Aegis is certainly not holding back, I mean he even tried to kill his own daughter here with no hesitation. He's not trying to gaslight,
it is just the Aegis being in control.
Omnipresence in a smaller body to the thing you're Omnipresent over=/=Equal AP, Durability & weight to the whole thing you're Omnipresent over, logically. Even then, it would be 3-A.
We've addressed this before, but Nebula Man is a compressed universe. As far as him being a mini-Universe goes, well obviously yeah. No one argues he's literally Universal in size. The point is he's a compressed Universe, we know this since it's said
he's a supermatter (Seven Soldiers: Frankenstein #4), something like a
Supersolid, which relates to
condensed matter physics. This makes sense since he's no longer a baby Universe like as Qwewq, but now is an adult.
Furthermore, "shattered the boundaries of Space-Time and changed timelines" isn't Low 2-C, it would be 3-A for destroying the universe, which they didn't do nor could do at once, the over time thing they did do was to f*ck up the planet.
Affecting space and time on a universal scale is blatantly Low 2-C.
All of this happens due to conceptual things; the ways the character should have acted being wrong in the eyes of the other character, rather than physical strength. For example Supes thinks Supes killed Lois by the way he handled his Earth, even though he saw her die of natural causes/for no reason right in front of him. It's not AP, and yes, it's at the same time dictated by their fight, such as punches. It's not binary, ok?
I'm not sure how it's just "conceptual things" when blatant things like
shattered the boundaries of space and time, as well as the book stating
they were bending reality.
At one point when the Supermans are beating each other they do so while changing forms as suits/forms Superman have had over the years, throwing out of the question the state in which they are being standard.
Can you prove any of these forms are stronger than base Superman? Some of them like Blue Superman are actually weaker than normal Superman so I don't see how this changes anything.
He only messes the multiverse only after the feat even happens. He wouldn't even be attacking GA Superman if that happened prior to the feat since GA Superman was on his side.
Edit!: Right after the battle was over
Earth-Two Supes explains that the multiverse is unstable, that the Earths will become weaker and weaker as they're divided (Their current state), and if they aren't brought ack together soon the entire universe will explode in a new big bang & everything will be destroyed. He just knew this after being calmed down, at first both Sups blamed each other for the chaos because they didn't know any better, but they were wrong, the Earths were divided (visible from the sky) from before the battle started, and that is a state that, on its own, messes up the universe bedly & will destroy it. Superman having a vague conceptual thing going on over this related to how writers do things in comics is not something that matters to his AP at all.
"that the Earths will become weaker and weaker as they're divided (Their current state), and if they aren't brought ack together soon the entire universe will explode in a new big bang & everything will be destroyed" is talking about something will happen, not something that has happened yet.
Many things wrong here, this too is very disingenuous. The GLC Central Battery can do that, but it's not that simple, you portray it as if its average attack was that strong, when it's not. It first needs to siphon all GL energy back to itself, this alone meaning that it can't do the feat w/o doing that yet. After that it will overload, have a power builtup & destroy itself, meaning that the feat's more than it can handle, hence it happens after an overload (It having more power than it can load), a power builtup (leads to the latter), and it destroys itself doing the feat (Your regular punches, kicks, blasts, etc. don't scale to some feat where you self-destruct).
Even then, being amped by a power source =/= having a Tier=to that power source, obligatory. Otherwise one attack alone would cause the thing to be drained into having 0 power, it needs to be proven that their stats are the same.
Hal Jordan got stomped by Sinestro with those powers, who considered himself godlike despite already scaling to Hal's level in base. Sinestro was enjoying attacking Hal immensely, so you have 3 solid reasons to dismiss that feat, that being before Hal got healed & a powerup to match Sinestro on that level.
Those scans don't show that Molly has all that, just that something has it, and it doesn't show that they have the full power of those things, just access to it. All that power is also spreading through time, so there is no reason for the full sum of it to be in the present where she's using it.
The battery still connects to all rings and control of the battery gives control of them.
Control of the green also gave Cyborg Supes control of the rings, and Hal has even fought this Cyborg.
See the Big Bang page, the Big Bang is 3-A unless stated otherwise and shielding from it not from the center isn't Universe level durability.
Tanking a portion of an infinite universe sized big bang would still be High 3-A, and Ganthet wasn't that far from the epicenter.
I'll reply to the rest later.
