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The DB universe is as big as my backyard deal with it.
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DBZ universe is just like our universe confirmed.
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It's actually the same size as a Soup Can.CHILLVIBEZZ said:
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That seems legit tho lol
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Alright, the Dragon General of Middleburg got this. So we got Our universe size, CHILL's backyard, and a soup can.
Which is legit?
Which is legit?
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DBZ characters confirmed Tier 11.
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Are we all really gonna just ignore the mentioning of a omnscient being in DBS
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Hmm though question.
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Going with the soup can should be closer to the right size.
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Talking seriously now you think Akira did this on purpose lol. Somehow someway he heard of the 4 Galaxy argument from Japan.
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I am almost convinced this is on purpose,every single downplay has been systematically debunked. Dbz characters dont have planet level striking strength ep 1 happens,dbz characters cant destroy anything above planet level,ep 12 happens and the entire universe is threatened,freeza core busted planet vegeta,ep 19 happens and he does it causally,dbu is only 4 galaxy galaxies shown in ep 1,14,17,still dont beleive well jaco says there are countless galaxies,still think dbz characters dont have planet lvl stricking strength and beerus destroyed the planet in ep 1 with some sort of purple potion magic,well champa kick and destroyed a planet after missing beerus and they destroyed many planets afterwards. Yea this is definetly too coincidentalCHILLVIBEZZ said:
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It'd be crazy if he heard of the 4 Galaxy argument from Japan but yeah I'm convinced he did it on purpose it's way too random.Akira going all out on DB downplayers it seems.lol
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The only remaining downplay is Goku having low durability while offguard, Akira honestly could've avoided that. Otherwise DBS did a good job of erasing all scepticism about DBZ
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After the RoF Saga ... I think he will no longer have this weakness.Faisal Shourov said:
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I dont think he will either rof was basically a trainig session for goku and vegeta to overcome their weaknesses.TakatoBlue said:
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Yea i think it will remain the same dbz characters raise their stats with ki so naturally it wouldnt be up in a relaxed setting(well unless your whis whose body reacts on its own) but in combat i expect goku wont let his guard down anymore.Davy0 said:
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They seem to have a kind of Observation Haki (One Piece) to be trained.At some point in the franchise, Goku probably will not let his guard down even if he wants to.
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In other words ... almost perfect defense.Davy0 said:
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Damn right, something that even Beerus didn't accomplish. The perfect bodily defense, a defense without need of stamina or thought. Something martial artists in real life wish they can achieve. Endless practice breeding an "empty" fist, Muuken. But that's neither here nor there. Goku paid for it and learned his lesson.
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You should add the "At Least" too. Goku and Vegeta should get increased DP's because Goku and Beerus' attacks were both destroying the entirety of the universe, not just Beerus' as was explained multiple times and seen from the shockwaves. They both displayed an equal amount of might in their punches. If it wasn't, it would be likely that one of them would have been blown away by the others strength, yet both stood their ground. Thus, Goku is also Universe Level, that's why I'm saying place him at "At Least" or even "+" (for Beerus) due to the rhetoric told by Whis about how their control of "God Ki" was far lower than Beerus.
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Goku is multi-galaxy while beerus is universal that is right for now until beerus displays feats above universalDavy0 said:
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as of now, goku ssjg was like 50 percent universal
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far below that imo, look at my new threadThe Living Tribunal1 said:
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lol how is it far below???Faisal Shourov said:
you do know that 3-A now officially includes destroying anywhere between 1 and infinite 3-D physical universes
lol
evn with 50 percent universal ssjg goku
and a few x physical universe ssb goku, beerus will still be in 3-A
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Our guru DarkLK clarified that High 3-A means infinite 3-Dimensional power, or less than universal 4-D power, so "at least" seems inappropriate for the moment.
Also, it would apparently take multiple attacks from Goku to destroy a universe, not a single strike.
Also, it would apparently take multiple attacks from Goku to destroy a universe, not a single strike.
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This.Antvasima said:
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The Living Tribunal1 My bad I thought you meant 50% of Beerus. I personally think SSG Goku is less than 10% of Beerus (Rage vegeta scene was a gag and I don't buy that BS 10% in the anime)
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yes, goku ssj god (red) will need maybe 6 strikes to destroy a universe, and 2 ki attacks to destroy the universeAntvasima said:
ssb goku > saiyan beyond god goku post training > ssjg goku
so, ssb goku can destroy more than one physical universe
even if beerus were many times stronger, beerus wud still be multiple 3-D physical universe level or 3-A
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So you're saying... That Goku's punches. That caused a shockwave throughout the universe, same as Goku's did. Are Multi-Galaxy Level even though we have proof enough that the frickin' universe is the exact size it was supposed to be. How in the heck is that even possible. Are you really understanding what you're saying right now. They were literally DESTROYING the universe with their punches. BOTH OF THEM! The attack was of equal force to one another otherwise that effect would not have happened as it did and their clash would have been someone being blasted back. What you're saying makes NO SENSE, Goku is just as much responsible for almost destroying the entire universe as Beerus who is still VASTLY superior to him.
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10 percent?Faisal Shourov said:
i'd argue ssjg goku was more like 1 percent lol
keep in mind, 10 percent beerus managed to casually oneshot enraged vegeta (most likely holding back as always)
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I am saying based on what evidence we have right now goku is multi galaxy level.That is a huge range. The universe has about 400 billion galaxies if i am not mistaken,goku should be in that range while beerus is imo a casual universe busterDavy0 said:
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Yes 1% is more likely. Heck, it might be even less than that. Beerus is treating Goku and Vegeta like ants lolThe Living Tribunal1 said:
I don't count the Vegeta scene as legit (same as Roshi busting moon). It looks PIS
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it can be legit tho, keep in mind, beerus used no effort, one finger and casually oneshotted after that (probably purposefully held back as well)Faisal Shourov said:
also, roshi's moon buster can be seen as legit BUT its useless in battle as it takes a long time to charge, and after charging, roshi cant fight
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... Holy crap.... I can't...
Are you crapping me. So we should use this same principle for every other character clashing with another in anime then. Because I can tell you a crapton of anime that do this all the bloody frickin' time, yet we gave them the full force of said powers. It wouldn't be right for just DB Super to have to get in on the phenomenon. Let's get to work boys. Where shall I start?
Are you crapping me. So we should use this same principle for every other character clashing with another in anime then. Because I can tell you a crapton of anime that do this all the bloody frickin' time, yet we gave them the full force of said powers. It wouldn't be right for just DB Super to have to get in on the phenomenon. Let's get to work boys. Where shall I start?
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1- 3 punches from him and beerus wud have been enough to destroy the universe, so thats 6 punches for goku on his ownAntvasima said:
2- from the get go, goku tried nullifying collateral energy, so only a little (relatively) seeped out
3- the energy clash between goku and beerus had the power to destroy the universe
and by the looks of it, it had equal energy from goku and beerus, so that wud make goku's energy attack as 50 percent universal
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You are looking for absolute consistency again. We don't have it. All profiles are handled by different people, and evaluated on a case-by-case basis. We can only try to make each estimation accurate. Several wrongs do not together make a right. Just because something else is inaccurate does not mean that we should do so here.
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Indeed so he could wipe out 200 billion galaxy on his own still muti galaxy level.Goku is on the verge of being universal but e is not completly there yetThe Living Tribunal1 said:
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