Eden_Warlock99
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Nah, they just have the same multiplier over base
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DB Toei - About Buuhan's Tier 2 rating
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You can technically argue that too, but given that fusions are hella wanked already in TOEI community from the writers, it's not that far fetched.
Eden_Warlock99
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You know, the tabber problem really makes me want to change Buu's Power n Abilities into what it was before
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Don't derail.
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But this isn't direct combat applicable tho, it's basically an environmental attack right?
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Agree completely, holy based
The multi dimensional collapse part probably isn’t yeah, but the tier 2 AP rating given for destroying the dimensional walls at all in the first place absolutely is.
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So will this be 2-C since the macrocosm has 3 infinite space times? Or just Low 2-C AP with 2-C chain reaction?
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Is this Low 2-C or 2-C?
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There is no chain reaction. He is breaking down these barriers to other dimensions via sheer power alone.
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Oh so it’s full on 2-C
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Breaking the barriers maybe, but he is not making the other dimensions colide with his own power, it is more of an after effect
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The macrocosm of Universe 7 is 2-C. It contains 3 space-times within it
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That still doesn’t matter, because he’s single-handedly responsible for breaking down multiple space-time continuum barriers with his own Ki.
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You did not share your opinion on this matter.
Mind evaulating?
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Neutral currently.
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Well true, but the feat made by buu with ap is L2-C, 2-C is the after effect of the feat
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He is breaking the barriers, not low 2-C universal structures, that is the point
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I'm gonna be completely honest, you're not making any sense to me right now. I don't get it
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Pretty sure it'd still end up 2-C because even if Buu is affecting the Dimensions first, the point is he's affecting them simultaneously, and then those very same dimensions would proceed to perform the 2-C feat. Meaning:
Dimensions Together = 2-C. Buuhan being comparable to them together means he's comparable to the 2-C feat.
Irregardless I'm certain the 2-C result would still scale to Vegito considering how confident he was in stopping it at any stage of it.
Dimensions Together = 2-C. Buuhan being comparable to them together means he's comparable to the 2-C feat.
Irregardless I'm certain the 2-C result would still scale to Vegito considering how confident he was in stopping it at any stage of it.
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He's probably trying to say that it's a chain reaction
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Your point is fundamentally flawed because those barriers keep other dimensions from falling into the Macrocosm to begin with. Said macrocosm being accepted as infinite in size, in order to break those barriers he would have to be Low 2-C by default, and considering there are multiple barriers hence the plural, 2-C.
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i agree
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Does breaking the space-time barriers separating universes count as an AP feat? The only after-effect is the convergence of the High 3-A universes
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Yeah the whole point is that he's still affecting all of them. It's very similar to how Midnight Sparkle's feat was accepted as 2-C (which I'm surprised I didn't make that connection). He's still significantly affecting the Universes in order for this to be a problem in the first place.
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Okay i will try to explain better, what will cause the 2-C destruction is the destruction of the barriers that separate the dimensions of the universe, which is the feat made by buu, the destruction of the barrier in of itself would be L2-C as it would involve space time covering an universal scale, the feat made by buu's power is L2-C, the after effect of said feat is 2-C
No, the barriers are not universal space times, therefore they don't qualify for tier 2 purposes, but since their destruction involves space time and buu would cover the universe, that means that it is a L2-C feat, just that, affecting space time alone is not tier 2, it has to be on a universal scale
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Well he is affecting the barrier and not the realms themselves
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Don't wind it up, lol
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Good thing he's affecting three separate universes lmao
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Ultima already explained in OP that it absolutely counts, since you're murking the fabric of spacetime itself.
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I forgot to mention that I'm wondering if he's proposing Low 2-C or 2-C
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He says the feat Low 2-C at a minimum just purely with the context of the feat itself, not with how Toei currently treats the Cosmology.
But the issue is, it's the actual fabric of Space-Time, not just some physical barrier that encompasses the dimensions. Since these are the literal fabric of those dimension's space-times, significantly affecting all of them to the point the actual dimensions are affected to that degree, all at the exact same time, would be 2-C. It's literally affecting the fabric of space-times that separates the universes. That's definitively 2-C unless you can find explicit evidence the barriers aren't the space-time.
But the issue is, it's the actual fabric of Space-Time, not just some physical barrier that encompasses the dimensions. Since these are the literal fabric of those dimension's space-times, significantly affecting all of them to the point the actual dimensions are affected to that degree, all at the exact same time, would be 2-C. It's literally affecting the fabric of space-times that separates the universes. That's definitively 2-C unless you can find explicit evidence the barriers aren't the space-time.
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The barriers don’t have to be universal space times. The fact of the matter is that they are separating the universe, and other dimensions apart, which are infinite in size.
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He is not affecting them directly with his power, he is affecting the barrier that separates them
Which can be done even if they have L2-C durability easy enough
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The whole point of this is that he is affecting this with his power… have you not read the op?
Edit: Nvm I thought you said he wasnt affecting the barriers with his power
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There's no difference between affecting the spacetimes directly or affecting the barrier separating them, the barrier has to be strong enough to keep those timelines out from crashing into the main one. So ultimately it would still be 2-C.
Uh... no. He's affecting multiple of such barriers simultaneously, which would easily constitute as 2-C.
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Depends on which side gets the most votes.
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