Darkness, Shadows, and Incorporeality.

[DMB_1]

Since we added Nonexistent Physiology and Non-Physical Interaction as abilities, thus making differences between multiple levels of Non-Corporeality, such as being Intangible, being a ghost/disembodied spirit, being a void etcetera, I started questioning myself what type level of Incorporeality "being actually darkness" or "being a literal shadow" would actually count as.

I'm not talking about materialized Darkness, such as in the cases of Meliodas and the Stone Army, but being what darkness is: the absence of light.

There are characters in fiction who are actually Non-Corporeal because they are literal darkness/shadows, or people who can interact and harm with such things, so I wanted to ask what level of Non-Corporeality this would count as.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I would imagine it would be akin to standard intangiblity due to no mass being there.

Affecting such beings should be its own thing tough.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Pretty sure that actual, genuine shadow would be Nonexistent Physiology. A shadow is not just nothing, it's also an active lack of light. A void of light.

Of course, it's only when shadows are actual shadows. A lot of fictions like to treat shadows as actual things that just so happen to be intangible.

 

[Antoniofer]

Most of the time Darkness Mimicry works just as another elemental intangibility, I wouldn't consider them to be non-corporeal much less nonexistent.

 

[DMB_1]

I mean, I don't think that you can actually erase complete darkness from existence, as in reality, darkness isn't actually "something".

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

You can throw light at it.

But like I said, this only applies to actual, genuine shadows. Not weird fiction shadows.

 

[DMB_1]

Yeah, but that's kind of like saying that you can defeat a void by putting something inside of it.

But yes, light in fiction is usually able to harm darkness.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

It does depend on the void. Most shadows are really just defined by the absence of light and stops being shadows when lighted up. But most voids actively erase matter.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I've been wondering this as well. Most fiction treats intangibility as the absence of physical presence, which is similar to our physical non-existence.

 

[DMB_1]

Also, in some fictions, you can harm other shadows by attacking them with your own.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Also, in some fictions, you can harm other shadows by attacking them with your own.

I know what you're thinking

 

[Antoniofer]

I've been wondering this as well. Most fiction treats intangibility as the absence of physical presence, which is similar to our physical non-existence.

We can't just treat anyone with intangiliby as being non-corporeal, intangibility is a sub-power of the last one so non-corporeal beings should have it by default but not the other way around.

And I don't think we should treat datkness manipulation to be assosiated to nonexistance, otherwise it can be considered too void manipulation.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I meant it more in the sense of the mechanics of lacking a physical for,

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Shadow Manipulation is just removing light. It's too specific to be void manipulation. I'm saying that BEING a shadow could easily be considered nonexistent physiology.

 

[DMB_1]

Yes, Darkness Manipulation isn't Void Manipulation, however, being literal Darkness is another thing.

 

[DMB_1]

quickbump

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Immense bump

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Bumping this cause I too would like to see the end of this conversation.