Dark King Of The Abyss vs Ainz Ooal Gown

[Abysswalker2126]

Dark King of the Abyss Vs Ainz Ooal Gown
Speed Equalized
Both In Character
Both get 5 hours of Prep
Battle Takes Place in the Plane of innistrad
Hopefully this will be a fair match


Fiend:

Skeleton:

Incon:

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Following

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Okay so first issue, since Ainz is an undead what can he do to prevent Lili from simply taking control of him?

 

[Abysswalker2126]

Okay so first issue, since Ainz is an undead what can he do to prevent Lili from simply taking control of him?

He resists Empathetic manip

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He resists Empathetic manip

It's not done via empathic manip it's done via necromancy

 

[Abysswalker2126]

Liliana uses morality manip to control undead and ainz resists all forms of mind manip

 

[WeeklyBattles]

She uses a mix of necromancy and morality manip, it's done by using her own black mana to manipulate the energy that keeps opposing undead alive and twisting it so that they serve her instead of her opponent. Also blanket mind manip resistance isnt enough reasoning to argue that he resists morality manip iirc

 

[Abysswalker2126]

It’s not blanket mind manipulation res
Ainz also resists necromancy

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It’s not blanket mind manipulation res
Ainz also resists necromancy

What is the volume he resists?

Alternatively Lili could just kill him by turning his undeadness off

 

[Abysswalker2126]

What is the volume he resists?

Alternatively Lili could just kill him by turning his undeadness off

I’m a MTG guy not an Overlord expert so I can’t answer that however that’s not something she would do In character even when fighting against undead she just summons undead to fight them or cast kill spells IE when fighting her undead brother Josu

 

[WeeklyBattles]

As someone who is also knowledgeable on MtG and who recently heavily revised her profile she is absolutely willing to just turn off undead using her magic, there are even feats of her doing so linked on her profile

 

[Abysswalker2126]

Ainz still resists necromancy and as far as I know her magic has to connect and Ainz can negate magic

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What feats of nullification does he have? I talked to some people knowledgeable on Overlord and apparently he wouldntbe able to null her

 

[Abysswalker2126]

I believe it’s like this but as an enchantment

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Is it active or passive? Because given the prep time and the plane theyre on Lili would 100% have a Witchbane Orb here which would null a lot of Ainz' stuff

 

[Abysswalker2126]

Huh should I change to Sorin or Avacyn then?

 

[Abysswalker2126]

Changed to Avacyn

 

[Abysswalker2126]

Bump

 

[DaReaperMan]

Next issue: Ainz is being downgraded to Low 7-C.

 

[Abysswalker2126]

Next issue: Ainz is being downgraded to Low 7-C.

How is that a downgrade when he’s at 8-C-7-B with a bunch of unknowns?

regardless it’s a battle of Hax not AP

 

[DaReaperMan]

How is that a downgrade when he’s at 8-C-7-B with a bunch of unknowns?

regardless it’s a battle of Hax not AP

everyone in Overlord is getting downgraded,

and what stops this guy from just power nulling everything ainz has or just getting ultra combod into oblivion because he doesn't resist timestop, Ainz's first or second move, that is also thought-based by the way. in order to fight Ainz fairly you either need resistance to Time Stop and Death Manipulation, or thought-based shit that you open with yourself, the ladder induces incon and the former induces an ACTUAL fight

Avacyn does not resist Time Stop, so Ainz time stops and then throws shit at Avacyn until something sticks, which will be Reality Slash, since that negates durability in the form of Spatial Manipulation.

 

[Abysswalker2126]

everyone in Overlord is getting downgraded,

and what stops this guy from just power nulling everything ainz has or just getting ultra combod into oblivion because he doesn't resist timestop, Ainz's first or second move, that is also thought-based by the way. in order to fight Ainz fairly you either need resistance to Time Stop and Death Manipulation, or thought-based shit that you open with yourself, the ladder induces incon and the former induces an ACTUAL fight

Avacyn does not resist Time Stop, so Ainz time stops and then throws shit at Avacyn until something sticks, which will be Reality Slash, since that negates durability in the form of Spatial Manipulation.

I can’t tell what your saying
Either way she can’t be targeted nor destroyed by spells and abilities via Mask and natural invulnerability btw

 

[DaReaperMan]

I can’t tell what your saying

Avacyn doesn't resist time stop so Ainz thinks, time stops, realizes his opponent doesn't resist time stop, and sets a ridiculous string of spells to go off the instant Time Stop ends

 

[Abysswalker2126]

Avacyn doesn't resist time stop so Ainz thinks, time stops, realizes his opponent doesn't resist time stop, and sets a ridiculous string of spells to go off the instant Time Stop ends

What part of can’t be targeted by spells or abilities don’t you get?

 

[DaReaperMan]

What part of can’t be targeted by spells or abilities don’t you get?

Oh really? Then Ainz stands there and let's his AOE instant death aura do the work, oh wait, she resists that, next fighter.

 

[DaReaperMan]

In case that wasn't clear, don't pick someone Ainz literally can't target with anything, it will always be a stomp

 

[Abysswalker2126]

Oh really? Then Ainz stands there and let's his AOE instant death aura do the work, oh wait, she resists that, next fighter.

In case that wasn't clear, don't pick someone Ainz literally can't target with anything, it will always be a stomp

She can’t bypass his resurrection tho

 

[DaReaperMan]

She can’t bypass his resurrection tho

that is a one-time thing, while it is probably more we have to scale Ainz's ressurection ring to the other extremely high-end ressurection item we have seen in action, Shalltear's ressurection ring, which was a one-time use.

 

[DaReaperMan]

but seriously, when one character practically cannot touch the other then it is probably a stomp. why did you think a god damn magic caster vs someone who can't be targeted by spells was a good idea? even if Ainz's ressurection item was infinite he would self-BFR as soon as the fight started due to the sheer power difference and him not being able to target Avacyn with his abilities.

 

[Abysswalker2126]

but seriously, when one character practically cannot touch the other then it is probably a stomp. why did you think a god damn magic caster vs someone who can't be targeted by spells was a good idea? even if Ainz's ressurection item was infinite he would self-BFR as soon as the fight started due to the sheer power difference and him not being able to target Avacyn with his abilities.

Well can’t he destroy the mask?
Anyway swapping to Jace

 

[DaReaperMan]

Well can’t he destroy the mask?
Anyway swapping to Jace

Ainz has 7-B magic and dura, he would be obliterated by getting glared at too hard.

I'm sensing smurfery here, but Jace drops dead the minute the fight starts because he doesn't resist death manipulation nor time stop

 

[WeeklyBattles]

everyone in Overlord is getting downgraded,

and what stops this guy from just power nulling everything ainz has or just getting ultra combod into oblivion because he doesn't resist timestop, Ainz's first or second move, that is also thought-based by the way. in order to fight Ainz fairly you either need resistance to Time Stop and Death Manipulation, or thought-based shit that you open with yourself, the ladder induces incon and the former induces an ACTUAL fight

Avacyn does not resist Time Stop, so Ainz time stops and then throws shit at Avacyn until something sticks, which will be Reality Slash, since that negates durability in the form of Spatial Manipulation.

Avacyn has Low-Godly regen

 

[DaReaperMan]

Avacyn has Low-Godly regen

That stops death manip again why?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ainz has 7-B magic and dura, he would be obliterated by getting glared at too hard.

I'm sensing smurfery here, but Jace drops dead the minute the fight starts because he doesn't resist death manipulation nor time stop

Im working on reworking the MtG profiles but he will actually resist those

 

[WeeklyBattles]

That stops death manip again why?

She resisted Sorin's death magic and lesser angels have been unaffected by Liliana's death magic

Angels in MtG are essentially constructs formed from pure mana supplemented by the Plane they exist in

 

[DaReaperMan]

Im working on reworking the MtG profiles but he will actually resist those

Good, this is also a mismatch then!

She resisted Sorin's death magic and lesser angels have been unaffected by Liliana's death magic

Angels in MtG are essentially constructs formed from pure mana supplemented by the Plane they exist in

I literally acknowledged that Avacyn resisted death manip

 

[DaReaperMan]

But this is a mismatch one way or another

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah aside from Liliana and the Theros block charcters all of the MtG profiles are heavily outdated

 

[Abysswalker2126]

how is this a mismatch?
It’s Jace

But this is a mismatch one way or another

how it’s jace?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

how is this a mismatch?
It’s Jace

how it’s jace?

Lemme just ask, does ainz have mind manip resistance beyond just being unmindhaxxable in his own verse due to being an undead? Because Jace can mindhax undead