Dante vs Luke

[Schnee_One]

I thought he had to hit the floor to use that?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Luke FRA

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I remember being able to use it during a combo without the need to se the animation.

Like I said, it doesn't change much.

 

[DarkGrath]

I'm pretty sure that Dante hitting the floor to start it up is just a flashy move he does by choice, I also remember being able to use it mid-combo. Even so, I'm still pretty much convinced this is a mis-match.

 

[KnightOfSunlight]

Yeah if my earlier sarcasm didn't give it away, this is a mismatch.

Possibly a grudge/spite match too.

 

[Schnee_One]

If this is a Spite match, what is the Spite against?

Cuz he hates both characters

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I don't hate Luke...unless we're counting TLJ

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

If this is a Spite match, what is the Spite against?
Cuz he hates both characters

Depends on who he hates more ovo

But yeah, I believe Knight is correct here

 

[Schnee_One]

Either way I'm keeping this open until Twellas has nothing more to state.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Cal Howard: *hates Dante*


Dante:

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Real talk, why do you hate Dante? It's not like he's really haxxed or anything

 

[Kepekley23]

Just think about it for two seconds lol

 

[Schnee_One]

Reb come on this is obvious

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I'm too much of a brainlet to figure it out, sorry

 

[Schnee_One]

3

A

Now figure it out

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Oh wait I think I got it...

something something Kirby-related?

 

[Schnee_One]

Kinda

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Kinda

Oh yeah, I get it now, I think

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

So, I believe we can now say that Cal hates Dante more, which means this is a spite towards him, thus this thread should be closed ovo

 

[Kepekley23]

Devil May Cry 2 - Dante crowns Arius

This thread is a mistake and shall be erased FILLED WITH LIIIIGHT

 

[Twellas]

Yeah i am never gonna be ok with this, never. There is no way of quantifying the strength of a mind control, number of people controlled doesn't denote its intensity and we have had dante resist a universe worth of mind-controlling energy. This would seriously be equivalent to SS mind-raping Kubik or Odin, absolutely proposterous, i am logically and naturally going to assume that an ability that is effecting an enitre universe is stronger than one that effects a galaxy. Overall this is a terrible match that relies on the assumption that since since DMC only has earth Argosax's mind manip is weaker somehow. You can close this, no way in hell you can convince me about this not being bs

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Guys. It was a request. If I wanted to spite Dante I sure as heck wouldn't have used Luke. And I promised Glass I'd stop being a petty person.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Well, whoever made a request, the match is pretty dumb, for reasons I stated above.

 

[Schnee_One]

I did actually

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Is it to late to mention that Luke actually has universal mindhax? It's just not brought up because we don't know how much life exists beyond the main Star Wars galaxy and it's therefore mostly irrelevant to how we handle mindhax here.

Mindhax is quantified by how many people it can affect, not by range. Quadrillions of people plus an unquantifiable amount more beats Dante's unquantifiable amount.

 

[Schnee_One]

I brought it up earlier

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I don't understand how that works, how mindhaxing fodders with 0 resistance (with a few exceptions) is a potency feat ? You need just a basic mind hax to affect them

Anyway, I agree with Reb here

 

[Twellas]

Again, this all dwells on the baseless assumption that because DMC only has earth Argosax's mind control is weaker, which makes no sense, it's not like it didn't manipulate other life forms because of a lack of power, it's that there isn't anything else to control, the amount of people controlled is irrelevant when 3\4 are fodders. Mind controlling quadrillions of people doesn't say anything about the strength of the mind hax, only its range And i also agree with Reb

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I'm pretty comfortable in saying that at least 60% to 70% of the Star Wars universe has resistance.

Basic mindhax can still be pretty difficult to apply when stretching it across several people.

 

[Schnee_One]

I don't understand how that works, how mindhaxing fodders with 0 resistance (with a few exceptions) is a potency feat ? You need just a basic mind hax to affect them

Anyway, I agree with Reb here

I can apply that exact same logic to the Argosax feat

Even then, Luke can do that, said it multiple times

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Mind controlling quadrillions of people doesn't say anything about the strength of the mind hax, only its range

Yes it does, thats how we treat mindhax here

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I still don't fully understand mindhax, Luke mindhaxes a galaxy full of people and thus galaxy level, madara mindhaxes a planet and it is only range, not potency.

Methu didn't mindhaxed someone and has the strongest 3-D mindhax besides Rei

Pretty weird if you ask me.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I'm pretty sure Medara is actually counted as having planetary mindhax now. That's what I heard in Vader vs Madara anyways.

 

[Twellas]

so what you are saying is that controlling, let's say, a billion defensless normal humans is superior to controlling a multiversal being with resistences? Seriously, that is range, nothing more

 

[Schnee_One]

Madara mindhaxing the planet requires the moon to amp his potency

Luke dies it whenever he feels like it

Massive difference, even then Madara having planet level potency with the moon is accepted

 

[Schnee_One]

so what you are saying is that controlling, let's say, a billion defensless normal humans is superior to controlling a multiversal being with resistences? Seriously, that is range, nothing more

Affecting a 2A infinitely above you is infinitely above a billion

 

[The_Wright_Way]

If said multiversal being is 3-D and has resistances below a billion, yes. If otherwise, then false equivalency.

No, it isn't. Count Dooku can mindhax from across the galaxy, but can not mindhax the galaxy. That's range. If he could mindhax the galaxy, then it'd be potency, but he can't.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I could go on with lot of examples like those ones.

Mindhax is pretty weird but a broken ability.

 

[Schnee_One]

Go ahead please, I'll explain every single one

Preferably on my wall though

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

If I am lazy enough to not post it here I will not go to your wall and start posting there

If I get my PC today I'll probably do it.