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Dante Gets Hired To Kill The Quincy King GRACE

noninho said:
FTL vs Hypersonic
On this quesite, Dante'd be brutalized if not on those conditions

Thing is who paid how much for this jobhow he react to x-axis, RC or similar
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Hypersonic what? (Also the attackspeed is the same even if speed is equalized)
 
Yhwach with the Almighty is a character who almost always either stomps or gets stomped. Dante has to counter the Almighty's defensive properties to even damage him. Arguably time slow can achieve this since we know surprise attacks bother Yhwach, but time stop would be far better and of course the teenage idiot Dante doesn't have that yet.

Anyway, Dante has time slow and regeneration negation, and acausality 4. He also has layered concept hax on his attacks and madness hax when he gets serious. Those are the abilities I can think of which might do something against Yhwach.

For the Almighty's offensive properties, Yhwach seemingly can't decide that Dante's regeneration doesn't work, so Dante's regeneration might be just as solid as an answer to Yhwach.
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
Why wouldn't they?
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Oh, the Almighty is classed as fate hax. I wasn't sure that described all of it, but I suppose any other additions you could make to it, like reality warping and probability manipulation, are also already resisted by Dante.

That will mean Dante can't be messed with using the Almighty, but can he stop Yhwach from keeping himself going with it, like he did against Ichigo?
 
Random-Helper323 said:
Oh, the Almighty is classed as fate hax.
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Every type of Acausilty outside of Type 1 resists Fate Manip. I just bothered to ask for us to get the ball rolling and to make sure there wasn't a sneaky example of "Oh this power is so strong, it beat out someone's really good reistance".
 
He's resistant to the Almighty it seems, but he can't turn off the Almighty which means that he can't actually kill Yhwach while Yhwach still has other various hax and superior physicals to beat Dante.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
He's resistant to the Almighty it seems, but he can't turn off the Almighty which means that he can't actually kill Yhwach while Yhwach still has other various hax and superior physicals to beat Dante.
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Yeah, that's what I was asking. He can nullify the offensive applications of the Almighty, but I'm asking if he can overcome its defensive applications, and then we have to ask if he can answer that X6 AP advantage.
 
Dante needs an answer to three things if he wants to win.

1. The Almighty's offensive uses.

A: He has these answered with his acausality and resistance to fate hax, reality warping and probability manipulation.

2. The Almighty's defensive uses, namely his ability to rewrite his own death out of existence. If Dante can't answer those, he can't kill Yhwach.

Possible answers: madness hax, regeneration and immortality negation, layered concept hax, time slow/surprise attacks, sealing, power null.

3. Yhwach's 6X AP advantage.

Possible answers: royal guard, his precog/instinctive action, regeneration, Devil Trigger boost, accelerated development/adaptive evolution, getting a hax hit in first.

Apologies for any screw ups on my end throughout this whole thread, I'm typing in a hurry on a device that's lagging so much it's practically in a different time continuum.
 
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Oml theres alot to read on Dante's profile.

So Yhwach has the physical advantage which he can amp further temporarily with either Blut, possibly hijack Dante's body using Body Puppetry if he makes physical contact using Anhaben or giving his Reiatsu. (Doesn't look like he has resistance to Soul Erasaure so Yhwach can one shot?)

Can Dante kill him reasonably with any hax that the Almighty can't undo?

cause eventually how does Dante deal with Power absorption? Sankt Altar is a targeted ability that as shown in the anime now aswell can affect and take Ichibe's metaphysical power over Black which is CM Type 2.
 
Loyd said:
Oml theres alot to read on Dante's profile.

So Yhwach has the physical advantage which he can amp further temporarily with either Blut, possibly hijack Dante's body using Body Puppetry if he makes physical contact using Anhaben or giving his Reiatsu. (Doesn't look like he has resistance to Soul Erasaure so Yhwach can one shot?)

Can Dante kill him reasonably with any hax that the Almighty can't undo?

cause eventually how does Dante deal with Power absorption? Sankt Altar is a targeted ability that as shown in the anime now aswell can affect and take Ichibe's metaphysical power over Black which is CM Type 2.
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mind you we have 5 other threads that had stuff accepted but we forgot to add them so yeah he has more stuff that needs to be added that would make this match a bigger stomp.
 
SYPHe5D said:
mind you we have 5 other threads that had stuff accepted but we forgot to add them so yeah he has more stuff that needs to be added that would make this match a bigger stomp.
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That should be it's own thread since we can only use what's on the profiles.

If I'm reading Dante's profile right, the third key only with the Low Tier Demon physiology and Sparda Resistances, this version of Dante doesn't have resistance to Yhwach's Soul Crush nor Yhwach's Soul Manipulation level in general.

Dante also has no ability listed that can kill Yhwach nor bypass the defensive abilities of the Almighty either while Yhwach has innate resistances to most of Dante's arsenal.

Then you have the physicals gap and it just seems like Yhwach's to win.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
That should be it's own thread since we can only use what's on the profiles.

If I'm reading Dante's profile right, the third key only with the Low Tier Demon physiology and Sparda Resistances, this version of Dante doesn't have resistance to Yhwach's Soul Crush nor Yhwach's Soul Manipulation level in general.

Dante also has no ability listed that can kill Yhwach nor bypass the defensive abilities of the Almighty either while Yhwach has innate resistances to most of Dante's arsenal.

Then you have the physicals gap and it just seems like Yhwach's to win.
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I never said that we can use what had been accepted on those threads(yet),don’t jump into conclusions.
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
If I'm reading Dante's profile right, the third key only with the Low Tier Demon physiology and Sparda Resistances, this version of Dante doesn't have resistance to Yhwach's Soul Crush nor Yhwach's Soul Manipulation level in general.
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All demons have resistance most kinds of soul manip types, disintegration, reaping transmuting included from DWE. Which 4D in level.

IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
If I'm reading Dante's profile right, the third key only with the Low Tier Demon physiology and Sparda Resistances, this version of Dante doesn't have resistance to Yhwach's Soul Crush nor Yhwach's Soul Manipulation level in general.
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Profile bad, presentation bad. It's High tier Sparda for Mission 20 Dante, since he scales above Sealed Mundus.

IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
Dante also has no ability listed that can kill Yhwach nor bypass the defensive abilities of the Almighty either while Yhwach has innate resistances to most of Dante's arsenal.

Then you have the physicals gap and it just seems like Yhwach's to win.
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Dante can seal, power null and BFR to DW with Jackpot. it's 2C uber powerful technique which seperated DSS into it's lesser parts. DW has dozen passive which can kill Yhwach.

Physical Gap can be surmounted by AD easily. Hell he might already above Yhwach in AP via scaling chain, 4A comes from Beastheads and Sealed Mundus is above him.

4A Beastheads << Sealed Mundus >> Injured Vergil <<<< Peak Vergil << Force Edge Vergil ~< Dante << Force Ed4Age Dante
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
Physical Gap can be surmounted by AD easily. Hell he might already above Yhwach in AP via scaling chain, 4A comes from Beastheads and Sealed Mundus is above him.

4A Beastheads << Sealed Mundus >> Injured Vergil <<<< Peak Vergil << Force Edge Vergil ~< Dante << Force Ed4Age Dante
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This isn't impressive in comparison to Yhwach either.

Almighty Yhwach easily killed the Soul King and Ichibei, Soul King being superior to Ichibei, and Ichibei is the most powerful of the Royal Guards which includes Shutara who performed the 4-A feat with a "fraction of her power" which she demonstrates as the feat is done simply by activating her powers. It wasn't even the attack itself, just the activation.

So Dante is still far below this Yhwach's physicals.
 
Huesito88 said:
Hypersonic what? (Also the attackspeed is the same even if speed is equalized)
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nope
attack speed is brought down by the same multiplier as combat speed
say i'm Speed of Light with a 100x Speed of Light attack
no matter what happens in speed equalization, that attack will always be 100x faster than me
 
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
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I see.
Don't see much difference.

For Beastheads the 4A was just "birthing pains" of just manifesting in the human world. It was doing bunch of other stuff like breaking laws of world and such.
It's not even attacking yet.

Sealed Mundus will be heads and shoulders above all his general combined.

Then there's DT for for Dante which allows him to one shot his base self. Then there's Majin form in case he is desperate which is even beyond DT.

And again, this is very scalable "gap" of power via AD/RE.
 
Shmooply said:
How many times is this thread gonna be made DAYUM!!
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