Danganronpa: Small doubt on Makoto tanking a really huge fall

[StrymULTRA]

I wanted to make myself sure of this idea I had.

Feat: Makoto tanks a huge fall, which isn't specified the height, but the time yes (with this I found that it lasts from 7:42:29 to 07:52:11, making the time frame of 9.82 seconds).

So, using this calculator, I found that the height of such a long fall is of 472.839 m, so putting it here (with the weight of 65.4 kg due of 52 kg for Makoto + 5 kg for the chair + 8.4 kg for the desk), I got the force of 314263.91 Joules (Wall level).

Issue is, is the way I found his durability right? Because I'm a bit iffy on the method used since is the first time I use such method for open fall feats.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

This calc says it's 281,425 Joules

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'd feel myself safer with a calculator instead tbh, since a really similar calc uses it and got accepted.

Also the one you linked doesn't say the calculator, meaning that it could be a guess-so number

 

[Jasonsith]

IIRC Mr Naegi landed onto piles and piles of rubbish which should act as smelly but good cushions to absorb damage.

 

[StrymULTRA]

IIRC Mr Naegi landed onto piles and piles of rubbish which should act as smelly but good cushions to absorb damage.

It was only around Makoto, not under Makoto

 

[Armorchompy]

and he's supposed to be the lucky one

 

[StrymULTRA]

and he's supposed to be the lucky one

that's the punishment for not screaming "hope" over and over again from the 1st trial

 

[Armorchompy]

Anyway, while the rubble's only around him isn't it possible he pushed it aside when landing?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Anyway, while the rubble's only around him isn't it possible he pushed it aside when landing?

Nothing remotely implied so, also when he woke up we already see nothing under him, nor something that leads to believe so.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Ok, it was Kyoko the one who fell on the trash, so the argument now is moot.

 

[Jasonsith]

So we do not know what was exactly under Naegi at the time he (when possibly still tied to a chair) fell onto.

Well I can recalculate that and when that is done ... To be safe we can still get a ceiling value for the long fall.

 

[StrymULTRA]

So we do not know what was exactly under Naegi at the time he (when possibly still tied to a chair) fell onto.

Well I can recalculate that and when that is done ... To be safe we can still get a ceiling value for the long fall.

He fell with the head on the ground tho, not with the chair under him, meaning that he tanked the fall fully.

 

[Jasonsith]

He fell with the head on the ground tho, not with the chair under him

You have the exact scan Makoto hit ther ground head on? When Makoto was still head downward he was still falling and flipping. And apparently the chair and desk started to get loose from that Mr Naegi.

And Monokuma even mentioned that the bottom is a garbage-strewn pit, meaning the bottom (at least where Makoto landed) was actually filled with rubbish bags which should act as rough cushions.

 

[StrymULTRA]

You have the exact scan Makoto hit ther ground head on? When Makoto was still head downward he was still falling and flipping.

And Monokuma even mentioned that the bottom is a garbage-strewn pit, meaning the bottom (at least where Makoto landed) was actually filled with rubbish bags which should act as rough cushions.

The whole scene of the execution, he falls with the head upside down and then he its the ground in that position

 

[StrymULTRA]

Heck, I even linked the feat in the OP to show what I'm talking about

 

[Armorchompy]

The position he was when starting to fall doesn't really matter. In long enough falls you spin and rotate, so obviously he'd be in a different position.

 

[StrymULTRA]

The "tunnel" was too small to allow too different changes in position to happen tbh

 

[StrymULTRA]

And Monokuma even mentioned that the bottom is a garbage-strewn pit, meaning the bottom (at least where Makoto landed) was actually filled with rubbish bags which should act as rough cushions.

It was later confirmed that they are across the room, we don't see any trash behing Makoto, nor him saying that there was trash under him.

 

[Armorchompy]

The "tunnel" was too small to allow too different changes in position to happen tbh

Then wouldn't the chair (and his head) repeatedly collide with the edges, slowing it down a bit? Though it'd probably be fairly minimal.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Then wouldn't the chair (and his head) repeatedly collide with the edges, slowing it down a bit? Though it'd probably be fairly minimal.

We don't see such, at very least Makoto did a really small rotation, meaning that he still crashed with his arms/back

 

[StrymULTRA]

Bump

 

[Jasonsith]

Well I think this may have resolved your queries.

Furthermore, Makoto did leave the falling point for a distance before walking into some "plain and tough surface".

 

[StrymULTRA]

Well I think this may have resolved your queries.

Furthermore, Makoto did leave the falling point for a distance before walking into some "plain and tough surface".

So 91k Joules is it?

 

[Armorchompy]

if he did leave the falling point then the whole feat might be moot.

 

[StrymULTRA]

if he did leave the falling point then the whole feat might be moot.

Except he... didn't? He was incapacitated to do so.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'd like to ask to @Jasonsith anyways if 91k Joules is good to apply, since a really casual feat in the verse was 2k Joules, supporting such tier.

 

[Jasonsith]

Naegi falling feat is 91k-ish maximum assuming a not safe landing (like nothing to slow the falling speed and nothing good to cushion the impact if nothing to further harm him) IMO and is a high end feat in his own tier.

Even arguable that Naegi kun is a stone wall and not everyone else compares. The heavy hitters have their own tier. Tokami san and Kyoko chan should reasonably scale.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Even arguable that Naegi kun is a stone wall and not everyone else compares. The heavy hitters have their own tier. Tokami san and Kyoko chan should reasonably scale.

Every 9-C then, thank you.