Damage Accumulation in JoJo...again

[SupremeGilgamesh]

This will be quick.If Promestein decide to say something about i have open ears This will be a thread of the staff to discuss the debunking of the debunk of Damage Accumulation

The Past So the points that were made were that things that Jotaro and DIO thrown or punch around can't accumulate energy since the examples never show a clear damage after the timestop

The Present I have a counterpoint to those points in that energy can be accumulated since DIO could throw knifes while in stopped time and they still had the energy of the throw after the timestop meaning they stayed with kinetic ENERGY after the

The Future This is the place for counterpoints that i may had to apresent as the thread get going

This is a staff only thread so no FirePhoenixEarl

 

[ShivaShakti]

Ah shit here we go again

 

[Genericstickman]

Also I guess DIO donuting Kak is an example of one I guess since as we're shown by the Donut Master Diavolo, you don't go flying when getting donuted

 

[ShivaShakti]

''Time to make the donuts''

 

[Genericstickman]

I'm all for pseudo damage accumulation since it is shown

 

[Antvasima]

I don't think that this subject seems important enough for the wiki to make into a staff only discussion, so I will move it to the content revision forum instead.

You can use the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure verse page and the Knowledgeable Members List to find people to ask to comment here.

 

[SomebodyData]

"This is a staff only thread so no FirePhoenixEarl"

Is this an inside joke or spite against another user?

 

[Genericstickman]

I hope so

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

"This is a staff only thread so no FirePhoenixEarl"
Is this an inside joke or spite against another user?

Inside joke

 

[Promestein]

Even if you disregard all the assumptions that need to be made to get to the point that this is reasonable, which requires ignoring every inconsistency and interpreting it in the most generous way possible, putting any number on it is ridiculous calc stacking, as you're using a speed value from one calc and an AP from another.

Any damage accumulation that occurs is unquantifiable and probably irrelevant.

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

Even if you disregard all the assumptions that need to be made to get to the point that this is reasonable, which requires ignoring every inconsistency and interpreting it in the most generous way possible, putting any number on it is ridiculous calc stacking, as you're using a speed value from one calc and an AP from another.
Any damage accumulation that occurs is unquantifiable and probably irrelevant.

Wait

Isn't calc stacking the use of a calculation from other person to calculate a feat?

 

[Promestein]

Yes. This would be calc stacking, as to get a result from your generous damage accuulation, you would have to use the calcs we currently use.

 

[ShivaShakti]

Whats wrong with Calc stacking btw?

 

[Promestein]

Leads to inflated statistics.

One example I remember is that bullets in Metal Gear can be calced as like Massively Hypersonic based on a lightning feat, which leads to very deep into FTL Raiden

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

Then why don't we make a calc about it?

 

[ShivaShakti]

Ngl FTL Raiden would be lit XD

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Promestein.

Should we close this thread?

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

No i didn't even counterpointered fairly any points someone did

 

[Antvasima]

This would be against our standards though.

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

I said fairly

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

Anyway

If somebody is apt to do the calc,please do so we can end this debate?

 

[Promestein]

Again, the calc in question would be calc stacking and thus inflated and unusable.

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

Again, the calc in question would be calc stacking and thus inflated and unusable.

Actually asking this time

Why it would be calcstacking exactly?

 

[ShivaShakti]

Inb4 Dio gets Country level dura via tanking damage accumulation lmao

 

[Genericstickman]

He didn't actually

 

[Promestein]

I already said. You're using the results from two different calcs to calculate an inflated result on how much he can punch in 5-9 seconds and how much damage that would deal if it happened all at once.

 

[Antvasima]

Promestein is correct. We should close this thread.

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

Promestein is correct. We should close this thread.

Wait a minute i need my answers so i can shut up about it

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

I already said. You're using the results from two different calcs to calculate an inflated result on how much he can punch in 5-9 seconds and how much damage that would deal if it happened all at once.

Which calcs are those?

 

[Promestein]

... Are you serious? The calcs that have them at 8-C and MFTL. It doesn't matter what calcs they are, it'll be calc stacking no matter what.

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

But don't the person that wants to calculate needs to find how many punches he can throw in five seconds and how strong his punches are so he can calculate how much exactly it's gonna wield

Also Star Patinum is scaled to Silver Chariot and Stone Free

 

[Promestein]

Yes. That's calc stacking.

Calc stacking.

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

And how would you calc damage accumulation without those?

Also why there's a second calc stacking in your comment?

 

[Antvasima]

See here please: Calc Stacking

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

Ready i saw

So how do someone can calc this them without using those is what i asking

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

So... just to be clear, the only option for it to not be calc stacking would be to find a feat that gives building level, but not from a calc, and then scale him from a speed feat that does not come from a calc. Is this correct?

 

[Promestein]

... You'd have to calculate them. It can't be quantified.

And it's not like it'd be much, anyways. Any damage accumulation is minimal, as a good portion of the force carries through in stopped time. We cannot judge how much does not, so we cannot judge how much would stack.

This is without addressing the fact that it is not in character for Jotaro or Dio to do so out of the blue, even if they can.

 

[SupremeGilgamesh]

"Ok professor i'm gonna calc the damage"