PrinceofPein
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Stop clogging the thread and wait for what assura has to say
You brought nothing new here
Anyway 3 days is the wait time
You brought nothing new here
Anyway 3 days is the wait time
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Mitch Jibz majinere And the others didn’t give their opinions on the arguments above wait for them to at least pay attention to it
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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You're done who should pay attention they're fine with 5-B, High 4-C is the issue with Mitch but Majinere he's fine with 5-B too
Jibz
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Is this directed at me lol? I'm sorry but i have every right to have you clarify your claim
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Majinere was at first going for high 4-C you just became circular so ig He gave up He has a right to change his mind
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
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I didn't even debate in the thread? so when did i became circular? and he hasn't said anything yet so as long he didn't say anything that he change his mind his vote is counted to an agreement of removal, and don't message in this anymore and wait for ByAsura since it'll clog up the thread
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I'm changing back to neutral, want to see how it all pans out
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If I remember correctly, she created everything from nothingness.
It isn't stated that she created the moon. Should we then assume that chaos created the Earth while the moon was there all along?
The deities are capable of creating a star which were seen in their realm. How van chaos not be able to create a sun and a moon?
How can chaos only be planet lvl?
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Mind posting a scan about cath implyingb that?
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Here she enumerate Gods after stars which is backed up by their creations
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It’s never proven or said they created the stars… Sunshine is directly connected specifically to the Sun, so the fact that it can be used in both the Demon World and Goddess Realm implies they’re both the sun
Also that last statement is argument from incredulity
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Not as simple as that. In this kind of thread, closing it without any changes is what one side actively wants. When the topic is still being debated, it shouldn’t just be arbitrarily closed, especially when doing so noticeably benefits one side.
The thread should stay open because there are existing, valid contentions with the High 4-C rating
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How? We have scans to prove it
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Tell me, where the scan where it’s said “Yeah, the Demon King and Supreme Deity made a star”
Where’s the scan of us seeing them on panel actually doing it?
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The scans prove nothing. Creation of a dimension via unknown means is not a feat of AP via Creation. That does not exist. A dimension creation feat is either Pocket Reality Manipulation or it scales to physicals. NNT is the only verse to my knowledge that has “[AP Tier] with Creation”
speedster352
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Sunshine grace
speedster352
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It's not bad it's just creation
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And thus, it would not have a tier. It would just be Pocket Reality Manipulation. That’s how the wiki does things based on my knowledge. I don’t need to keep repeating this
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It is said they created the dimensions
The fact that sunshine can be used mean the dimensions contains suns
The fact that mid tier can instantly create dimensions backs up the short timeframe
speedster352
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But what about chaos he created the real world and there is no way he just popped death in the middle of nowhere. He created a star as well
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Chaos is a different story I believe, I’m referring to the Demon King and the Supreme Deity. The world is known to be affected by Chaos’ condition, so Chaos can be 5-B
Jibz
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that's pretty interesting, except its just referring to lifespan here. So at most you can argue longevity for Supreme Diety and Demon king.
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We have exemples of dimension creation in the lore
speedster352
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Why just planet level their is still a moon and the sun?
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I’m not gonna repeat this again
speedster352
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Why just ignore the sun and moon? I don't agree with the downgrade btw
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And that means anything how? You don’t support what you’re saying. Y’all just say “he created this,” “he created that,” etc. when I already told y’all that we treat creation feats that don’t scale to AP as Pocket Reality Manipulation.
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Holy shit
The Gods created their realms, and the realms is shown to celestial objects such as the moons and a lightsource. There's no reason for a direct statement when we're literally shown this.
You can remove it from their profiles but claiming that they aren't responsible for the things in their realms is just not acceptable
The Gods created their realms, and the realms is shown to celestial objects such as the moons and a lightsource. There's no reason for a direct statement when we're literally shown this.
You can remove it from their profiles but claiming that they aren't responsible for the things in their realms is just not acceptable
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Lakes doesn’t have longevity the list gives us precision about what would be faced with destruction including gods that are placed beyond stars
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It’s not ignoring, it’s me not wanting to repeat something I’ve said over and over again just because you guys don’t remember what I’ve said before. If you want to know why, scroll up
speedster352
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All you say is that it's vague for some reason
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Let me sum up my point: As long as these creation feats don’t scale to physicals, there shouldn’t be a “High 4-C via Creation.” Dimension creation either scales to physicals or is just Pocket Reality Manipulation
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That’s not written on the PRM page
Creation is a sub ability of RW we can say Chaos High 4-C with RW it would be more correct
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“For some reason” is just willful ignorance, I’ve said numerous times that there are so many unknowns about how these dimensions are created
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And? Not everything needs to be spelled out
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Yeah I am not contending with any of this. What I have troubles with is the argument that
"There needs to be a statement that they created the stars" specifically
speedster352
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But chaos created the real world
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We need more staff here
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Okay, thanks for clarifying
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