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In this thread i want to try get 7ds/4koa to multi solar system to high uni ap via using Meliodas feats as the bases and ill use vsbw tiering system to scale there power accordingly.Starting off with the multi solar system lvl 7ds/4koa, we already have the demon world having multiple stars and moons in it and accepted to be multi solar system lvl but why is it that we have prime demon king zeldris which was stated that he regained his power from his glory days but for some reason he is only planet lvl even with magic imbued weaponry which is a 10x multiplier in ap, so shouldn't he just be multi solar system lvl since He created the demon world with starry sky In a short time which would mean his ap scales to that and it also fits the criteria for for creation feats scaling to your ap not only that we know for a fact that creation feats in 7ds are done using magic, just how diane can create floating mountain using her magic, or how about the time when sariel and tarmiel creating there dimension and stated that u need power equal to them to escape (Ch 264 page 9) which this is in context to estarosa saying that he will destroy said dimension to escape but he was to weak until he absorbed galand's commandment and was able to escape meaning he destroyed said dimension and tarmiel and sariel was still able to low diff this estarosa just by them using 1 attack each, so they blatantly scale to there creation. Also Chaos Arthur used the power of chaos to accidentally reset the world and he uses that same power to attack people with ie him fighting cath and using new abilities that arthur never had before he got chaos's power so we can't say the demon king is only multi solar system with creation, specially when we know that magic exists throughout your body as shown by percival getting magic amps in the demon world arc and his magic flows through his entire body even his individual hairs, so since the dk used magic to create his world then he should normally have that multi solar system lvl amount of magic in his body which also explains why characters in 7ds can withstand there of magic ie the supreme diety taking no damage from her own attack that was absorbed by eos ban and it was used against her, and how about when arthur face tanked his own full counterd attack and also when lancelot face tanked his own shining road that was amped by 10x and was used by a sacred treasure tier weapon when he was fighting nanashi. So the demon king should be multi solar system lvl with or with out creation and anyone who scale to the demon king should be on that lvl too.
Now for the high uni meta. We all know that chaos casually created the world with just a single intention and that world had the lady of the lake or the magic lake, and we know that lake has infinite amount of magic stated by multiple people. so this means Chaos output infinite energy on a 3D scale which fits the criteria for high uni for our tiering system and not only that but it is stated by Meliodas and multiple reliable characters, that true magic meliodas even in his base is too powerful that the world is trying to get rid of him which is why meliodas was going to go to the demon world which is confirmed by the Author Nakuba to be a separate dimension as the author listed every dimension purgatory was separated from and he listed every realm which means none of them are in the same dimension and we know the mortal plane is the main universe. I know many will say merlin stated only britannia would be destroyed and Elain said all of britannia is reacting to something, well the problem with this is that merlin isn't a reliable source for demon king power related its not like she studied the demon king and not only that more reliable source says the world like ban Meliodas when talking about half of the demon king's power and the narrator at the back of the volume says the same thing that the world will fall into ruin due to meliodas`s power and even the demon king implies that meliodas power will be too much for the the mortal plane to handle, and as for elain's statement she can only sense all of Britannia unless u can prove that her sensing capability is planetary for her statement to be considered but ik we can't prove that and there are to many other statements and feats of meliodas going to leave the mortal plane so that he doesn't destroy it i think its just more consistent to say the world instead of just Britannia. So what does all of this mean? Well it means that eos Meliodas just by existing is high universal as a planet or even just Britannia can handle infinite amount of magic power but can't handle Meliodas's power, that means he Meliodas's power is greater than high uni so he should be at a bare minimum high uni, and for those that questions if the demon king's power should be high uni, well yes he should be high uni too but he won't be on the same lvl as meliodas or chaos it will go as follows, chaos > TMF meliodas > prime demon king. U can also add multipliers but that is quite irrelevant since infinty x 1000 is still infinty. I also want to add that this will also obviously upscale 4koa meliodas as he seams to be stronger than his TMF since he can fight arthur even tho u can argue meliodas is holding back due to his mind set and how later in the fight with lancelot, base meliodas takes no damage from chaos arthur and Meliodas doesn`t see the need to use his demon mark nor assault mode when facing chaos arthur without excallurber, and also note that arthur is stronger than chaos, because arthur's corpse absorbed chaos and then he absorbed cath which cath was able to actually fight chaos but he still lost, and then arthur has his own sacred treasure tier weapon to amp him more and he can get 10x stronger with magic amped weapon so base Meliodas is undoubtable stronger than his TMF self.
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