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New Upscaling 7DS/4KOA Power

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In this thread i want to try get 7ds/4koa to multi solar system to high uni ap via using Meliodas feats as the bases and ill use vsbw tiering system to scale there power accordingly.

Starting off with the multi solar system lvl 7ds/4koa, we already have the demon world having multiple stars and moons in it and accepted to be multi solar system lvl but why is it that we have prime demon king zeldris which was stated that he regained his power from his glory days but for some reason he is only planet lvl even with magic imbued weaponry which is a 10x multiplier in ap, so shouldn't he just be multi solar system lvl since He created the demon world with starry sky In a short time which would mean his ap scales to that and it also fits the criteria for for creation feats scaling to your ap not only that we know for a fact that creation feats in 7ds are done using magic, just how diane can create floating mountain using her magic, or how about the time when sariel and tarmiel creating there dimension and stated that u need power equal to them to escape (Ch 264 page 9) which this is in context to estarosa saying that he will destroy said dimension to escape but he was to weak until he absorbed galand's commandment and was able to escape meaning he destroyed said dimension and tarmiel and sariel was still able to low diff this estarosa just by them using 1 attack each, so they blatantly scale to there creation. Also Chaos Arthur used the power of chaos to accidentally reset the world and he uses that same power to attack people with ie him fighting cath and using new abilities that arthur never had before he got chaos's power so we can't say the demon king is only multi solar system with creation, specially when we know that magic exists throughout your body as shown by percival getting magic amps in the demon world arc and his magic flows through his entire body even his individual hairs, so since the dk used magic to create his world then he should normally have that multi solar system lvl amount of magic in his body which also explains why characters in 7ds can withstand there of magic ie the supreme diety taking no damage from her own attack that was absorbed by eos ban and it was used against her, and how about when arthur face tanked his own full counterd attack and also when lancelot face tanked his own shining road that was amped by 10x and was used by a sacred treasure tier weapon when he was fighting nanashi. So the demon king should be multi solar system lvl with or with out creation and anyone who scale to the demon king should be on that lvl too.





Now for the high uni meta. We all know that chaos casually created the world with just a single intention and that world had the lady of the lake or the magic lake, and we know that lake has infinite amount of magic stated by multiple people. so this means Chaos output infinite energy on a 3D scale which fits the criteria for high uni for our tiering system and not only that but it is stated by Meliodas and multiple reliable characters, that true magic meliodas even in his base is too powerful that the world is trying to get rid of him which is why meliodas was going to go to the demon world which is confirmed by the Author Nakuba to be a separate dimension as the author listed every dimension purgatory was separated from and he listed every realm which means none of them are in the same dimension and we know the mortal plane is the main universe. I know many will say merlin stated only britannia would be destroyed and Elain said all of britannia is reacting to something, well the problem with this is that merlin isn't a reliable source for demon king power related its not like she studied the demon king and not only that more reliable source says the world like ban Meliodas when talking about half of the demon king's power and the narrator at the back of the volume says the same thing that the world will fall into ruin due to meliodas`s power and even the demon king implies that meliodas power will be too much for the the mortal plane to handle, and as for elain's statement she can only sense all of Britannia unless u can prove that her sensing capability is planetary for her statement to be considered but ik we can't prove that and there are to many other statements and feats of meliodas going to leave the mortal plane so that he doesn't destroy it i think its just more consistent to say the world instead of just Britannia. So what does all of this mean? Well it means that eos Meliodas just by existing is high universal as a planet or even just Britannia can handle infinite amount of magic power but can't handle Meliodas's power, that means he Meliodas's power is greater than high uni so he should be at a bare minimum high uni, and for those that questions if the demon king's power should be high uni, well yes he should be high uni too but he won't be on the same lvl as meliodas or chaos it will go as follows, chaos > TMF meliodas > prime demon king. U can also add multipliers but that is quite irrelevant since infinty x 1000 is still infinty. I also want to add that this will also obviously upscale 4koa meliodas as he seams to be stronger than his TMF since he can fight arthur even tho u can argue meliodas is holding back due to his mind set and how later in the fight with lancelot, base meliodas takes no damage from chaos arthur and Meliodas doesn`t see the need to use his demon mark nor assault mode when facing chaos arthur without excallurber, and also note that arthur is stronger than chaos, because arthur's corpse absorbed chaos and then he absorbed cath which cath was able to actually fight chaos but he still lost, and then arthur has his own sacred treasure tier weapon to amp him more and he can get 10x stronger with magic amped weapon so base Meliodas is undoubtable stronger than his TMF self.
 
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In this thread i want to try get 7ds/4koa to multi solar system to high uni ap via using Meliodas feats as the bases and ill use vsbw tiering system to scale there power accordingly.

Starting off with the multi solar system lvl 7ds/4koa, we already have the demon world having multiple stars and moons in it and accepted to be multi solar system lvl but why is it that we have prime demon king zeldris which was stated that he regained his power from his glory days (Ch 320) but for some reason he is only planet lvl even with magic imbude wepponary which is a 10x multiplier in ap, so shouldn't he just be multi solar system lvl since He created the demon world with starry sky In a short time
which would mean his ap scales to that and it also fits the criteria for for creation feats scaling to your ap not only that we know for a fact that creation feats in 7ds are done using magic, just how merlin recreated liones over night via magic (Ch 197) and how diane can create floating mountains using her magic, or how about the time when sariel and tarmiel created there dimension and stated that u need power equal to them to escape (Ch 264 page 9) which this is in context to estarosa saying that he will destroy said dimension to escape (Ch 263 page 12) but he was to weak until he absorbed galand's commandment and was able to escape meaning he destroyed said dimension and tarmiel and sariel was still able to low diff this estarosa just by them using 1 attack each, (Ch 264 page 14-15) so they blatantly scale to there creation. Also Chaos Arthur used the power of chaos to accidentally reset the world (Ch 336 page 6) and he uses that same power to attack people with ie him fighting cath and using new abilities that arthur never had before he got chaos's power so we can't say the demon king is only multi solar system with creation, specially when we know that magic exists throughout your body as shown by percival getting magic amps in the demon world arc and his magic flows through his entire body even his individual hairs, so since the dk used magic to create his world then he should normally have that multi solar system lvl amount of magic in his body which also explains why characters in 7ds can withstand there of magic ie the supreme diety taking no damage from her own attack that was absorbed by eos ban and it was used against her, and how about when arthur face tanked his own full counterd attack and also when lancelot face tanked his own shining road that was amped by 10x and was used by a sacred treasure tier weapon when he was fighting nanashi. So the demon king should be multi solar system lvl with or with out creation and anyone who scale to the demon king should be on that lvl too.
You would need to prove that UES exists for Magic in 7DS (Im suprised this wasn't already done yet). Then yeah maybe I could agree to the thread
 
This. Basically proof Magic scales to AP + Strength + Durability
Well yeah I thought it was common knowledge that magic scales to your stats more so amps your stats. if u go to 4koa ch 113 page 16 u will see Percival getting a magic boost and it amps his stats he even says the magic flows through his body and also all of the feats of characters tanking there own attacks and how someone like guila can contro how much magic she puts in her attack so that when Meliodas uses full counter she can tank it and that in the capital of the dead arc.
 
This. Basically proof Magic scales to AP + Strength + Durability
Well yeah I thought it was common knowledge that magic scales to your stats more so amps your stats if u go to 4koa ch 113 page 16 u will see Percival getting a magic boost and it amps his stats he even says the magic flows through his body and also all of the feats of characters tanking there own attacks and how someone like guila can contro how much magic she puts in her attack so that when Meliodas uses full counter she can tank it and that in the capital of the dead arc.
Upload them to imgur and link them
I see
 
Well yeah I thought it was common knowledge that magic scales to your stats more so amps your stats if u go to 4koa ch 113 page 16 u will see Percival getting a magic boost and it amps his stats he even says the magic flows through his body and also all of the feats of characters tanking there own attacks and how someone like guila can contro how much magic she puts in her attack so that when Meliodas uses full counter she can tank it and that in the capital of the dead arc.
You still need to put scans in the CRT to prove it. A staff evaluating the thread knows nothing about the verse and would need proof of those
 
You just repeated the same exact same arguments we used many times in different CRT’s despite actively criticizing us on your YouTube channel saying that the current NNT scaling is so bad.
 
You just repeated the same exact same arguments we used many times in different CRT’s despite actively criticizing us on your YouTube channel saying that the current NNT scaling is so bad.
Well arguing that they are only planetary to large planetary even tho they have higher feats, that’s why I’ll be clowning on y’all cause none of y’all that are in charge of the nnt scaling is doing a good job y’all be back in 2017 or 2015 thinking they cap planet to large planetary lvls and at some point u guys had the verse at large island lvl for god tiers 😭 this ain’t hate it’s just calling out what I see.
 
Well arguing that they are only planetary to large planetary even tho they have higher feats, that’s why I’ll be clowning on y’all cause none of y’all that are in charge of the nnt scaling is doing a good job y’all be back in 2017 or 2015 thinking they cap planet to large planetary lvls and at some point u guys had the verse at large island lvl for god tiers 😭 this ain’t hate it’s just calling out what I see.
Then do better, just recycling points we brought up is dumb
 
Then do better, just recycling points we brought up is dumb
I haven’t see any one of u use these points I’ve only seen one person use the lady of the lake stuff yet that was dismissed without any reason I’m first when it comes to using ban as a consistent high uni feats the multi solar is a given I would expect someone to use that argument but haven’t see it
 
I haven’t see any one of u use these points I’ve only seen one person use the lady of the lake stuff yet that was dismissed without any reason
I was the one translating the stuff related to the High 3-A LOTL meta, it was dismissed cause it’s bad.

I’m first when it comes to using ban as a consistent high uni feats
Why would Ban be High uni ?

the multi solar is a given I would expect someone to use that argument but haven’t see it
We litteraly applied it to the profiles lol and we are making a thread for Neo Camelot to be applied so the results are better.
 
Starting off with the multi solar system lvl 7ds/4koa, we already have the demon world having multiple stars and moons in it and accepted to be multi solar system lvl but why is it that we have prime demon king zeldris which was stated that he regained his power from his glory days but for some reason he is only planet lvl even with magic imbued weaponry which is a 10x multiplier in ap,
We proved the UES it scales to his stats now so this part/thread is useless

so shouldn't he just be multi solar system lvl since He created the demon world with starry sky In a short time
We already used this statement i mean you litteraly took my Imgur link

which would mean his ap scales to that and it also fits the criteria for for creation feats scaling to your ap not only that we know for a fact that creation feats in 7ds are done using magic,
Creation doesn’t necessarily translate to AP There’s criteria just saying it’s magic won’t help

just how diane can create floating mountain using her magic,
Useless exemple

or how about the time when sariel and tarmiel creating there dimension and stated that u need power equal to them to escape (Ch 264 page 9) which this is in context to estarosa saying that he will destroy said dimension to escape but he was to weak until he absorbed galand's commandment and was able to escape meaning he destroyed said dimension and tarmiel and sariel was still able to low diff this estarosa just by them using 1 attack each, so they blatantly scale to there creation.
A statement made out of anger while getting absolutely cooked isn’t a feat.

Sariel and Tarmiel escaped the dimension without having to destroy it, avoid using off screens to fit your arguments or else show us Estarossa destroying the dimension.

RW

so we can't say the demon king is only multi solar system with creation, specially when we know that magic exists throughout your body as shown by percival getting magic amps in the demon world arc and his magic flows through his entire body even his individual hairs,
Magic being able to flow through your body doesn’t mean you can amp yourself with the same amount you use for creation, which is why we had to prove UES while you didn’t. (Making your thread one of the hundreds that used the exact same arguments and didn't make it to the profiles)

so since the dk used magic to create his world then he should normally have that multi solar system lvl amount of magic in his body
Overtime feat
Shining Road isn't amped 10x, the enchantment amps the blade not ranged attacks.

Arthur tanked a casual attack

So the demon king should be multi solar system lvl with or with out creation and anyone who scale to the demon king should be on that lvl too.
4-B not 4-A
for the high uni meta. We all know that chaos casually created the world with just a single intention and that world had the lady of the lake or the magic lake, and we know that lake has infinite amount of magic stated by multiple people.
so this means Chaos output infinite energy on a 3D scale which fits the criteria for high uni for our tiering system
Through RW

Nice 5-B feat
Nakaba
to be a separate dimension as the author listed every dimension purgatory was separated from and he listed every realm which means none of them are in the same dimension and we know the mortal plane is the main universe.
We already brought up the fact that they were spatially separated spaces linked by portals with the corridor being the only way to purgatory like years ago.
I know many will say merlin stated only britannia would be destroyed and Elain said all of britannia is reacting to something, well the problem with this is that merlin isn't a reliable source for demon king power related its not like she studied the demon king and not only that more reliable source
She is the most reliable source outside of LOTL
says the world like ban Meliodas when talking about half of the demon king's power and the narrator at the back of the volume says the same thing that the world will fall into ruin due to meliodas`s power and even the demon king implies that meliodas power will be too much for the the mortal plane to handle, and as for elain's statement she can only sense all of Britannia unless u can prove that her sensing capability is planetary for her statement to be considered but ik we can't prove that and there are to many other statements and feats of meliodas going to leave the mortal plane so that he doesn't destroy it i think its just more consistent to say the world instead of just Britannia. So what does all of this mean? Well it means that eos Meliodas just by existing is high universal as a planet or even just Britannia can handle infinite amount of magic power but can't handle Meliodas's power, that means he Meliodas's power is greater than high uni so he should be at a bare minimum high uni, and for those that questions if the demon king's power should be high uni,
Sorry to break it to you but statements that holds the words « endless, countless etc… » are considered hyperboles unless other more reliable statements using « infinite » or similar terms are used.

well yes he should be high uni too but he won't be on the same lvl as meliodas or chaos it will go as follows, chaos > TMF meliodas > prime demon king. U can also add multipliers but that is quite irrelevant since infinty x 1000 is still infinty. I also want to add that this will also obviously upscale 4koa meliodas as he seams to be stronger than his TMF since he can fight arthur even tho u can argue meliodas is holding back due to his mind set and how later in the fight with lancelot, base meliodas takes no damage from chaos arthur and Meliodas doesn`t see the need to use his demon mark nor assault mode when facing chaos arthur without excallurber, and also note that arthur is stronger than chaos,
Arthur isn’t stronger than Chaos

Cath fought Chaos inside of Arthur’s body

Base Meli stronger than his TMF self is a crazy take ngl.
 
I was the one translating the stuff related to the High 3-A LOTL meta, it was dismissed cause it’s bad.
what was bad of it lol? i see no reasoning for it being bad

Why would Ban be High uni ?
cause he output infinite energy on a 3D lvl
We litteraly applied it to the profiles lol and we are making a thread for Neo Camelot to be applied so the results are better.
no yall never did at least not for ap
 
I was the one translating the stuff related to the High 3-A LOTL meta, it was dismissed cause it’s bad.


Why would Ban be High uni ?


We litteraly applied it to the profiles lol and we are making a thread for Neo Camelot to be applied so the results are better.
We proved the UES it scales to his stats now so this part/thread is useless
lol then why was bro only planet lvl with multi solar with creation if it actually scaled? thats because it didn`t and thats y i made the thread pointing it out
We already used this statement i mean you litteraly took my Imgur link
u didn`t use it properly as i pointed out thats why i questioned it as to y this is the case and not that
Creation doesn’t necessarily translate to AP There’s criteria just saying it’s magic won’t help
it does when we know how they created it which is why yall are using it rn in there pfp in stead pf saying with creation u are saying he is at this lvl of ap
Useless exemple
saying its useless doesn`t help u nor prove anything, in fact tell me why its useless?
A statement made out of anger while getting absolutely cooked isn’t a feat.

Sariel and Tarmiel escaped the dimension without having to destroy it, avoid using off screens to fit your arguments or else show us Estarossa destroying the dimension.
bro he literally tried to destroy the dimension to escape before he got cooked lol did u not see the scan i showed?

they didn`t escape the dimension cause they never where trapped in it as u can see the background is different and u can see a montain where sariel and tarmiel are flying with clear clouds. and estarosa just got a power boost and did what he said he will do ie destroy the dimension
he still uses it to attack with so it doesn`t matter if it`s RW since it just shows that he scales to it
Magic being able to flow through your body doesn’t mean you can amp yourself with the same amount you use for creation, which is why we had to prove UES while you didn’t. (Making your thread one of the hundreds that used the exact same arguments and didn't make it to the profiles)
yes it does cause if your magic flows through your body that would mean u have to withstand it of course if your creation is based on magic and not hax it would scale so explain why it wouldn`t? bruh if u want to play these games of disrespect ill play along just don`t pout about it.
Overtime feat

Shining Road isn't amped 10x, the enchantment amps the blade not ranged attacks.
thats funny cause we see it being a lot stronger also why would it not if u infusing it with the blade
Arthur tanked a casual attack


4-B not 4-A

Through RW
why would it not be 4-A lol bro had killing intent with that attack and he is stronger than Chaos Cause he absorb it and cath and holy swordin his base RW doesn`t debunk anything as already explained
Nice 5-B feat

Nakaba

We already brought up the fact that they were spatially separated spaces linked by portals with the corridor being the only way to purgatory like years ago.
ive never seen any of yall said this nor have i seen yall say all the realms are separate
She is the most reliable source outside of LOTL
just because he is a reliable source doesn`t mean she is for everything specially more reliable sources on the topic contradicts hers, which has no bases for. more reliable on the topic is meli ban elizabeth demon king and the narrator.
Sorry to break it to you but statements that holds the words « endless, countless etc… » are considered hyperboles unless other more reliable statements using « infinite » or similar terms are used.
claiming they hyperboles would be your burden to prove they all otherwise i can say almost every statement is hyperbolic without evidence. plus i already showed multiple statements of characters saying it and i showed the raw JP meaning and kanji of it so your skepticism isn`t valid.
Arthur isn’t stronger than Chaos
yes he is watch my king meliodas vs TM meli vid
Cath fought Chaos inside of Arthur’s body
lmao when did they say that lol? All they said is that cath fought chaos lost and was banished then sealed by the goddesses :ROFLMAO:
Base Meli stronger than his TMF self is a crazy take ngl.
IK but i made a vid on it
 
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