You're done who should pay attention they're fine with 5-B, High 4-C is the issue with Mitch but Majinere he's fine with 5-B too
Is this directed at me lol? I'm sorry but i have every right to have you clarify your claim
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Majinere was at first going for high 4-C you just became circular so ig He gave up He has a right to change his mind
I didn't even debate in the thread? so when did i became circular? and he hasn't said anything yet so as long he didn't say anything that he change his mind his vote is counted to an agreement of removal, and don't message in this anymore and wait for ByAsura since it'll clog up the thread
If I remember correctly, she created everything from nothingness.
Mind posting a scan about cath implyingb that?
Here she enumerate Gods after stars which is backed up by their creations
It’s never proven or said they created the stars… Sunshine is directly connected specifically to the Sun, so the fact that it can be used in both the Demon World and Goddess Realm implies they’re both the sun
Not as simple as that. In this kind of thread, closing it without any changes is what one side actively wants. When the topic is still being debated, it shouldn’t just be arbitrarily closed, especially when doing so noticeably benefits one side.
How? We have scans to prove it
Tell me, where the scan where it’s said “Yeah, the Demon King and Supreme Deity made a star”
The scans prove nothing. Creation of a dimension via unknown means is not a feat of AP via Creation. That does not exist. A dimension creation feat is either Pocket Reality Manipulation or it scales to physicals. NNT is the only verse to my knowledge that has “[AP Tier] with Creation”
Sunshine grace
It's not bad it's just creation
And thus, it would not have a tier. It would just be Pocket Reality Manipulation. That’s how the wiki does things based on my knowledge. I don’t need to keep repeating this
It is said they created the dimensions
But what about chaos he created the real world and there is no way he just popped death in the middle of nowhere. He created a star as well
Chaos is a different story I believe, I’m referring to the Demon King and the Supreme Deity. The world is known to be affected by Chaos’ condition, so Chaos can be 5-B
that's pretty interesting, except its just referring to lifespan here. So at most you can argue longevity for Supreme Diety and Demon king.
We have exemples of dimension creation in the lore
Why just planet level their is still a moon and the sun?
I’m not gonna repeat this again
Why just ignore the sun and moon? I don't agree with the downgrade btw
And that means anything how? You don’t support what you’re saying. Y’all just say “he created this,” “he created that,” etc. when I already told y’all that we treat creation feats that don’t scale to AP as Pocket Reality Manipulation.
Lakes doesn’t have longevity the list gives us precision about what would be faced with destruction including gods that are placed beyond stars
It’s not ignoring, it’s me not wanting to repeat something I’ve said over and over again just because you guys don’t remember what I’ve said before. If you want to know why, scroll up
All you say is that it's vague for some reason
Let me sum up my point: As long as these creation feats don’t scale to physicals, there shouldn’t be a “High 4-C via Creation.” Dimension creation either scales to physicals or is just Pocket Reality Manipulation
That’s not written on the PRM page
“For some reason” is just willful ignorance, I’ve said numerous times that there are so many unknowns about how these dimensions are created
And? Not everything needs to be spelled out
Yeah I am not contending with any of this. What I have troubles with is the argument that
But chaos created the real world
Okay, thanks for clarifying
