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7 days ago, I've asked on why Superhuman Physical Characteristics is the way it is (Archived) & pointed out that the average joe's highest feats are 9-C by blunt force. I'll deliver on my word that I'll make a CRT (Content Revision Thread) based on my updated view on the human's attacks & durability. Any arguments/criticism on these attacks would be appreciated:
Note: Piercing wounds can usually be explained by staff/members here.
I just found it odd that the average human's strongest attacks can be considered superhuman by wiki standards (Jan 30, 2022).
I'll propose some potential changes (may be rejected):
Striking Strength: Street Class?
Note: I know the link of bone durability (Archived).
Body Slams: It doesn't go up to 1000 J+ usually even if we use average men. (Will be removed in the future)
Hysterical Strength: There's been rare occasions of (Archived) human super strength (Archived). The reason I would likely tier the human of using 100% instead of 65% strength 10-A to 9-C is because of calculating a punch based off of the fact that 65*1.5384615385=100, is 70*1.5384615385=107.6923077 J or 74.36548327*1.5384615385=114.4084358 J. There's also the fact that you over exert yourself when using 100% of your strength, causing fractures (Archived).
Kicks: Our legs are notable for to keep the person standing, walking, running & more leg activities for long periods of time (Archived). They're faster than punches due to having large muscles & having to travel a longer distance (Archived). As a result, 2 calculations that I know of got to 9-C, I'm even surprised/impressed that they got to more than 1000 joules for SPC's striking strength. There was a street fight in Spain that involved people getting beaten, already kicked in the face (Archived). I think there's a feat of a gay man's face getting fractured by a kick, but I'll only link it if anyone's interested/ok with it.I mean it's a feat but things might get controversial, so that's why I'm holding back
Stomps: "Regardless of footwear and gender, it can be claimed that a forceful stomp or jump to someone's head supported on the ground can cause facial and skull fractures. Thus, forceful stomps or jumps to someone's head can cause potential fatal injuries independent of footwear, gender, or fitness level." (Archived) This fact is consistent with other incidents of people being stomped on the head & often ending up in the hospital. I managed to get 2 values that involved having over 1000 joules but they were high end values.
Hysterical Strength: There's been rare occasions of (Archived) human super strength (Archived). The reason I would likely tier the human of using 100% instead of 65% strength 10-A to 9-C is because of calculating a punch based off of the fact that 65*1.5384615385=100, is 70*1.5384615385=107.6923077 J or 74.36548327*1.5384615385=114.4084358 J. There's also the fact that you over exert yourself when using 100% of your strength, causing fractures (Archived).
Kicks: Our legs are notable for to keep the person standing, walking, running & more leg activities for long periods of time (Archived). They're faster than punches due to having large muscles & having to travel a longer distance (Archived). As a result, 2 calculations that I know of got to 9-C, I'm even surprised/impressed that they got to more than 1000 joules for SPC's striking strength. There was a street fight in Spain that involved people getting beaten, already kicked in the face (Archived). I think there's a feat of a gay man's face getting fractured by a kick, but I'll only link it if anyone's interested/ok with it.
Stomps: "Regardless of footwear and gender, it can be claimed that a forceful stomp or jump to someone's head supported on the ground can cause facial and skull fractures. Thus, forceful stomps or jumps to someone's head can cause potential fatal injuries independent of footwear, gender, or fitness level." (Archived) This fact is consistent with other incidents of people being stomped on the head & often ending up in the hospital. I managed to get 2 values that involved having over 1000 joules but they were high end values.
Human Bites:
Durability: Street level?
Bone: We do know the durability of bone (Archived), & the human does have a skeletal system (Archived). It often taking falls, trauma, a direct blow/kick to the body to break bones (Archived).
Attacks: "Logically, characters capable of physically achieving a certain degree of energy output, must be able to at least withstand a comparable amount of damage"
Car Crashes: If we assume that the pedestrian is going to be sent flying & not have absorbed all the car's kinetic energy, then we get 2.152778122-11.72068089 KJ based off this source (Archived).
Falls: I managed to get a legit source that claimed that any fall from 48 ft (5 stories) high & higher are likely fatal for a human. Any height lower than 48 ft leaves the person a chance of survival (Archived). If we assume that this is correct, then this gives us under 8.895463151 KJ worth of a fall.
Attacks: "Logically, characters capable of physically achieving a certain degree of energy output, must be able to at least withstand a comparable amount of damage"
Car Crashes: If we assume that the pedestrian is going to be sent flying & not have absorbed all the car's kinetic energy, then we get 2.152778122-11.72068089 KJ based off this source (Archived).
Falls: I managed to get a legit source that claimed that any fall from 48 ft (5 stories) high & higher are likely fatal for a human. Any height lower than 48 ft leaves the person a chance of survival (Archived). If we assume that this is correct, then this gives us under 8.895463151 KJ worth of a fall.
Taking 1 or more Bullets: Bullet wound & headshot survival depends on where you're shot, the speed of the bullet, & the caliber/size of the bullet (Archived). There are many reasons why the infamous headshot kills (Archived). If a bullet hits you in the vital organs (Archived), or incapacitates you by targeting the spine.(Archived), your mobility will significantly decrease & you'll likely die. But there's been cases of people being injured/killed by blank bullets (Archived). People in the past have survived gunshots (Archived), the wounds are undoubtedly painful & will bleed you to death or kill you in any other manner. I do have a dose of skepticism on the news sources from chances of bias & info corruption, but that's what I've got. Although I wouldn't be surprised since there's many studies of stress (Archived) decreasing performance of police's shooting accuracy & that with training, the LAPD can have a hit rate of 48%. It's likely that a human in general can take multiple small caliber bullets before dying (From a study, high caliber rounds (.357 magnum, .40, .44 magnum, .45, 10 mm, & 7.62 by 39 mm) killed the most with an odds ratio of 4.54, medium caliber (.38, .380, & 9 mm) had an odds ratio of 2.25, & small caliber rounds (.22, .25, & .32) killed the least. Small caliber rounds were determined to cause the least death & was announced that replacing guns with small caliber rounds will lessen homicides by 39.5% (Archived)). Orbitals (Archived) & Preorbitals (Archived) are targeted in failed suicide attempts (Archived), most of the failed recorded suicide attempts had low caliber bullets.
Surviving knife attacks: Knives are sharp but slower than bullets. Some types can cut through bone. 20 individuals died from a knife attack while 100 out of the 120 individuals received hospital treatment after being assaulted with a knife between February 1992 & December 1996 in the United Kingdom (Archived). If the knife slices/stabs/shanks you in the vital organs (Archived), or incapacitates you by targeting the spine. (Archived), your mobility will significantly decrease & you'll likely die.
Surviving knife attacks: Knives are sharp but slower than bullets. Some types can cut through bone. 20 individuals died from a knife attack while 100 out of the 120 individuals received hospital treatment after being assaulted with a knife between February 1992 & December 1996 in the United Kingdom (Archived). If the knife slices/stabs/shanks you in the vital organs (Archived), or incapacitates you by targeting the spine. (Archived), your mobility will significantly decrease & you'll likely die.
Note: Piercing wounds can usually be explained by staff/members here.
I just found it odd that the average human's strongest attacks can be considered superhuman by wiki standards (Jan 30, 2022).
I'll propose some potential changes (may be rejected):
- Speed: Faster than 12.34 m/s. (Where did this value come from? An answer would be appreciated besides this link (Jan 30, 2022)(Archived). If you look at the link of where Bolt's fastest speed comes from, it's max velocity is 12.34 m/s on pdf pg 8. If anyone can find where wikipedians got the 12.42 m/s or 100 m/8.051529791 s from, it would satisfy me)
- Lifting Strength: Over 501 kg (Unchanged, I mean people usually deadlift, not backlift.)
- Striking Strength: At least Street Class+ (This raises the standards to where any 9-C average human attack isn't superhuman. Even a regular human on 100% strength will barely reach it. Although due to bones being Street level+ at most, I'm open to Wall level raised standards)
- Durability: Street level+ (Any regular human attack by the leg & the bone's durability usually don't get up this high. Although due to bones being Street level+ at most, I'm open to Wall level raised standards)
- It's pretty late from where I live, so I'll respond the next morning or after school.
- Speed: Faster than 12.34 m/s. (Faster than Usain Bolt & other 100 meter Olympic sprinters in travel speed)
- Lifting Strength: Over 501 kg (Can deadlift more than Olympic Weightlifters.)
- Striking Strength: At least Street Class+
(Attacks are more than tens of thousands of joules (x>10,000 J), stronger than peak humans in real life.)(REJECTED) - Durability: At least Street level+
(Can withstand more force/energy than even the most densest bones & skulls can't handle, but can still be killed by things like spears, high-caliber rounds, etc.)(REJECTED)
(Blog)
The levels of strength, speed or stamina significantly exceed what is theoretically feasible for a regular person. Examples include ability to move faster than the eye can see[1][2] (the human limit is about 10 m/s at short distances), or even at supersonic speed,[3] without any expense to self and without any gimmicks.
The levels of strength, speed or stamina significantly exceed what is theoretically feasible for a regular person. Examples include ability to move faster than the eye can see[1][2] (the human limit is about 10 m/s at short distances), or even at supersonic speed,[3] without any expense to self and without any gimmicks.
Requirements
- Speed: Faster than 12.42 m/s. (Faster than Olympic 100 m sprinters)[4]
- Lifting Strength: Over 501 kg[5] (More than Olympic weight-lifters)
- Striking Strength: At least Street Class (Attacks carry the force of over thousands of joules)
- Durability: Street level (Able to survive large amounts of blunt force trauma,[6][7][8][9][10] but can still get be killed by things such as knives,[11][12] bullets,[13] etc.[14])
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