Creation Trio CRT

[NeoZex6399]

Maybe in PMD the boosts are different... idk

 

[GyroNutz]

Maybe in PMD the boosts are different... idk

Yes and no. Every boost bar speed gets boosted the same as in the regular games, and can be boosted up to 10 times. Speed is treated differently due to the game being a dungeon crawler, so a single boost to speed effectively means you can take two turns for every enemy's one turn.

 

[NeoZex6399]

I see

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

A question:

In Pokemon Mystery Dungeon... Is there anything concrete enough to hint that the Primal Dialga is so weak it jumps from 2-B to... Low 2-C ? Especially considering the games treat the protagonists as stronger than the Lake Trio.... Who... well.... They are 2-B as of now.... And Dialga as the final boss is treated as far superior to the Lake trio.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

There's nothing hinting that, which is why the profiles need to be updated (Grovyle and Dusknoir)

 

[NeoZex6399]

It is implied that Primal Dialga Ôëá Dialga, since Dialga affirms that he was conscious while Primal Dialga was operative but that he only saw darkness and chaos.

But it's not implied that he's weak enough to descend a level.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Oh.... Thanks Neo. I never said that the two were the exact same... As I agree they may be hinted to be separate. I was using the argument that Dialga may have been weakened and or a different entity , but they already scaled to Mespirit well before then which this site treats as 2-B for scaling somewhat to Full Power Dialga. And they treat Mespirit as a lot weaker than Dusknoir due to viewing him as tough in comparison to Mespirit... and treating Primal Dialga as the Final Boss which required all of them to fight together.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Oh look. A new CT thread

My guy, this has been trailing on for over 3 months

Ive been gone during that time lol so guess thats why.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Interesting, but since both have Infinite Speed, is this even useful?

 

[GyroNutz]

In speed equal, I suppose it's useful

 

[NeoZex6399]

Can someone translate this?

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[JooCipher]

from what i could manage to translate......it's something about causality being distorced

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

I think it involves the Causality being distorted or something of the sort

 

[Dragopentling]

Idk if this changes anything, but is there anything to add from Darkrai's actions of not only stalling Dialga and Palkia within what I assume is a form of its Dark Void move, but it seemed like it "sponged" their attacks and prevent the dimension from being completely wiped out at that point?

If not, then forget I brought this up.

 

[Antvasima]

So what are the conclusions here?

 

[GyroNutz]

All of the suggested changes are, I believe, in the OP

 

[NeoZex6399]

Yeah, the changes are above, now need to be accepted.

 

[Zeifyl]

Mind specifying which of the changes are accepted?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it seems like I and other staff members have accepted parts of this previously. That can probably be applied.

 

[Zeifyl]

Sure!

 

[Dragopentling]

whelp, my question doesn't get answered. Can we at least address that before we close the thread?

 

[NeoZex6399]

Idk if this changes anything, but is there anything to add from Darkrai's actions of not only stalling Dialga and Palkia within what I assume is a form of its Dark Void move, but it seemed like it "sponged" their attacks and prevent the dimension from being completely wiped out at that point?
If not, then forget I brought this up.

Maybe energy absorption.

 

[Dragopentling]

Okay that is fair then, as long as that ability is listed. So I guess this thread can be closed, then?

 

[NeoZex6399]

I think it's better to wait a bit more, or wait for Cal...

 

[Everything12]

Should Palkia/Dialga/Giratina have Abstract Existence Type 1 instead of Type 3 considering their Nigh-Omnipresence is gained from being Space/Time/Concept of Antimatter, which are the Abstracts that gives them their Abstract Existence Type 3?

 

[Antvasima]

We are currently discussing whether or not we should revise our Abstract Existence criteria in another thread.

 

[NeoZex6399]

@E12

I think that should be discussed in a separate thread, plus other things.

This one's already full enough

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, that is probably best.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Addressing Dragopenting's point, I think what Darkrai did to Dialga and Palkia when absorbing their signature moves (shouldnt that be attack absorption instead of purely energy absorption?) could also be classified as Telekinesis since Dialga and Palkia couldnt move while inside of it.

 

[NeoZex6399]

Makes sense

 

[Antvasima]

Well, it seems like I and other staff members have accepted parts of this previously. That can probably be applied.

Have the accepted parts been applied yet?

 

[Zeifyl]

I don't think the accepted parts have been applied yet.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Is somebody experienced with editing willing to handle it?

 

[LightinAnt]

If there is a list of the changes, i can add them if you want

 

[Antvasima]

I do not remember. Sorry.

 

[LightinAnt]

Subjective Reality for Palkia (and Arceus)

Resistance to Mind Manipulation for Arceus

Non-Physical Interaction for Dialga/Palkia/Giratina/Arceus and Lake Trio

Creation for the Lake Trio

Breath Attack for Dialga/Palkia/Giratina/Arceus

Light Manipulation for Dialga and Palkia

From what i'm seeing, these are the accepted ones. Just need to open their profiles and i can add them

 

[Antvasima]

Can you write a list of the exact titles for all the pages that I need to unlock?

 

[LightinAnt]

Mesprit

Azelf

Uxie

Dialga

Palkia

Giratina

Arceus

 

[Antvasima]

Thanks. I have unlocked them.

 

[LightinAnt]

I've added the changes