Concerns for a couple Kirby villains.

[Professor_Voodoo]

I have no problem with the upgrade that happened, but the feats that warranted the upgrade came from Dark Nebula & Necrodeus(i think).

Therefore i'm not sure if single appearance villains prior to 2006(when Kirby Squeak Squad was released and featured Dark Nebula) like Nightmare(Kirby's Adventure-1993/Nightmare In Dreamland-2002) and possibly Dark Mind(Amazing Mirror-2004) should've been included in the upgrade.

I exempt Zero-2(Kirby 64-2000) & Marx (Kirby Super Star-1996/Super Star Ultra-2008) due to Zero's status as the leader of all dark matter, and Marx being part of a post 2006 remake in addition to an extra form.

Maybe i'm overthinking this but....

 

[Antvasima]

I can ask Fastsword88, who did the upgrades.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I can ask Fastsword88, who did the upgrades.

Funnily enough, Fastword88 actually did that. Shall i direct him over to this thread?

 

[Antvasima]

I have already asked him.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I have seen that. Yeah again, FW88 was the one that did ALL of the upgrades.

 

[Professor_Voodoo]

It's not that i oppose the upgrade. It's just that i'm not sure Nightmare or possibly Dark Mind(depending on you view him in comparison to Dark Nebula) should be that high.

 

[Professor_Voodoo]

Lol XD

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

Lol XD

Hehe, yeah i hate that part about myself.

On a serious note, you may be up to something Skodwarde. Like are we sure all of the Kirby characters are warranted enough to get this upgrade?

 

[Professor_Voodoo]

I don't mind Zero-2 being scaled that high(due to his position) or Marx Soul (Normal Marx, i'm not too sure about) but the other 2 mostly the former draw a big question mark.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I see. So Zero-2 and Marx are alright, just Nightmare and Dark Mind is what your asking? Hmm, alright. Well we'll see what FastWord can say on this.

 

[Professor_Voodoo]

I see. So Zero-2 and Marx are alright, just Nightmare and Dark Mind is what your asking? Hmm, alright. Well we'll see what FastWord can say on this.

Basically. And i would much appreciate his input.

 

[Fastsword88]

You're likely right. I'll change Nightmare back to tier 5 based this calc and possible powerscaling from Bandana Dee.

As for Dark Mind, isn't he superior to Dark Meta Knight who can hold his own against Kirby in Triple Deluxe (2014) that came 8 years after Squeak Squad ?

 

[Professor_Voodoo]

I'm not entirely sure.

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

I think it's better to only powerscale Kirby characters who appeared again after Squeak Squad since it's the major reason for Kirby's upgrade.

 

[Professor_Voodoo]

I think it's better to only powerscale Kirby characters who appeared again after Squeak Squad since it's the major reason for Kirby's upgrade.

There are exceptions like Zero-2 though. And Marx due to his rebooted appearance in KSSU

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

Well, as long those exceptions are reasonable, I'm fine with that.

 

[Fastsword88]

I changed Nightmare back to tier 5. Do you guys think it'll be safer to put Dark Mind at "Possibly 4-A" (for being superior to Dark Meta who has a "rebooted" appearance as well in Triple Deluxe) or simply "Unknown" for now ?

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

I think Planet level would be best. After all, there's nothing wrong saying Dark Meta probably surpassed Dark Mind.

 

[Fastsword88]

That's possible. Alright then, though I'll probably add "possibly much higher" because we don't exactly if Dark Meta surpassed him or not.

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

I'm fine with that.

 

[Dino_Ranger_Black]

If you people don't mind, I would like your thoughts here please.