Composite Organism Part 4: Civil War Saga

[Skalt711]

Wait, then shouldn't the same apply to the other things like, 'immunity to sound manipulation due to lacking hearing'; then again, I can understand if it is kept but how would this work, can this thing hear or not hear; does it have emotions and mind and blood etc?
Also, these things really need references; where does Gravity Manipulation come from? Is there a creature that can control gravity or something? And, at best, it should be limited GM.

It comes from this bacterium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracoccus_denitrificans

 

[Agnaa]

The speed is still wanked, it's just not wanked as much.

Now instead of assuming that it can move at the same body-lengths no matter its size, weight, armour, etc, it's assuming that it can move at the same m/s no matter its size, weight, armour, etc. Simply from the way that movement is created making something twice as large scaling up each component the same amount won't have it moving at the same speed.

 

[Therefir]

Breaking the sound barrier is supersonic, not transonic.

 

[Kepekley23]

Body lengths are unusable. The reason was explained in the previous thread.

 

[Agnaa]

Scaling up speed to a being weing 6000kg and having multiple other abilities using up its tissue should be unusable for the same reason.

 

[Kepekley23]

It's not how our composite profiles work. We get the fastest speed ever recorded + the heaviest mass for KE.

Just like you were repeatedly mentioning Composite Tree to justify the use of clonal colonies, I'll mention every composite profile ever.

 

[Therefir]

Well, Composite Human doesn't work like that.

 

[Burstchaos]

Oh, so its resistances rather than an attack? Now that think about it, this will probably need its own section for resistances.

The powers and abilities section should probably be: Powers and Abilities: Powers/whatever List them with citations

Resistances: List with citations

However, in this case, the test simply proved that the bacterium was capable of growth under extreme gravity, so it should be 'resistance to gravity increase up to 403,627 times g'.

 

[Kepekley23]

It literally does

 

[Skalt711]

Another offtopic: Composite Tree's Lifting Strength (Class K) is stupid, just stupid! Does it have some strength to support it's weight? No.

 

[Agnaa]

If it's by convention then sure. It just seems weird to me that we'd say that using body-lengths isn't how the real world works as justification for discounting it when scaling up speed with size like that isn't how the real world works either. We don't have an example of another composite profile attempting body-lengths, so I'm curious as to why the line's drawn there. If it's by convention, then sure, it's impossible to provide a great reason to choose one arbitrary convetion over another one, and it's not my choice on which we go with.

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Another offtopic: Composite Tree's Lifting Strength (Class K) is stupid, just stupid! Does it have some strength to support it's weight? No.

But it's not usable in combat.

 

[Therefir]

It literally does

They said that I can't use the heaviest person of the world to find Composite Human's ap.

 

[Kepekley23]

Oh, that.

Probably because CH would want to actually be able to move, lol

 

[Skalt711]

But it's not usable in combat.

Uh... Is Composite Tree having some strength to support it's weight? Edit: I mean, lift it's weight?

 

[Agnaa]

Why wouldn't CH be able to move if it weighs 4 or 5x as much, but we think that CO would be able to move weighing something like 50million times as much?

 

[Therefir]

Oh, that.

Probably because CH would want to actually be able to move, lol

CH is Class 5 in lifting strength, so he should be able to move.

 

[Skalt711]

Should I change Large Size (Type 3) to Large Size (Type 2) and Range: several kilometers to Range: hundreds of meters? Because clonal colonies are banned... In that case, CO would be downgraded!

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Uh... Is Composite Tree having some strength to support it's weight? Edit: I mean, lift it's weight?

Support its weight, yes

Support its weight + additional 1636 tons, nope.

 

[Therefir]

You should change Transonic attack speed with Supersonic attack speed because breaking the sound barrier is supersonic.

 

[Agnaa]

@Skalt711 It seems like right now clonal colonies are being allowed, but I think we should wait for a more transparent statement before revising one way or the other.

 

[Kepekley23]

Breaking the sound barrier is transonic.

 

[Skalt711]

You should change Transonic attack speed with Supersonic attack speed because breaking the sound barrier is supersonic.

Nope!

According to Speed, Transonic (Mach 0.9-1.1) (308.7-377.3 m/s)

 

[Primaris_Brian]

Out of topic:

Lifting Strength is defined as the mass that an individual can lift. Pushing, pulling, and tearing feats are also considered a part of this statistic. It may or may not be dependent on Striking Strength.

So Supporting its own weight and nothing else doesn't count as Lifting Strength..Tree Lifting Strength need to go.

 

[Therefir]

Breaking the sound barrier is > Mach 1

 

[Kepekley23]

> Mach 1 is transonic

 

[Agnaa]

Breaking the sound barrier is > Mach 1

Yes, Transonic goes up to Mach 1.1, Supersonic starts at Mach 1.1.

Breaking the sound barrier does not necessarily mean being Mach 1.1.

 

[Therefir]

Mach 1.1 is Supersonic, being superior to mach 1 is supersonic, or that's what I see in the majority of the profiles.

 

[Kepekley23]

Being superior to Mach 1 is Transonic

 

[Agnaa]

There is a gap between Mach 1 (breaking the sound barrier) and Mach 1.1 (supersonic), this area is called "Transonic". You can be superior to Mach 1 while being inferior to Mach 1.1

 

[Therefir]

Then why the mayority of characters who breaks the sound barrier are supersonic?

 

[Kepekley23]

Because they have calculations to back up their rating.

 

[Agnaa]

Then why the mayority of characters who breaks the sound barrier are supersonic?

Their feats are slightly higher than just breaking the sound barrier. Perhaps they're shown breaking the sound barrier then going faster. Perhaps their feats are calculated to higher than Mach 1.1 even if the source media only says they broke the sound barrier.

 

[Skalt711]

I'm sorry, but... can we move composite Real World profiles to FC/OC VS Battles Wiki? Just curious...

 

[Therefir]

Because they have calculations to back up their rating.

No, their justifications for being supersonic are for being able to break the sound barrier.

 

[Agnaa]

Perhaps some profiles being Supersonic when they should be Transonic is best suited for a separate CRT?

If you're going to do that, you should include relevant profiles, and try to find discussion or the feats themselves for why they were given Supersonic, to see whether it was actually just for breaking the sound barrier or if more went into it.

 

[Kepekley23]

That's because their feats are slightly higher. Comparing real life to fiction is a no. The Apatosaurus is a real life animal.

Regardless, breaking the sound barrier is a transonic feat.

 

[Skalt711]

Anyways, I'll downgrade Large Size (Type 3) to Large Size (Type 2) and Range: several of kilometers to Range: Hundreds of meters because of clonal colonies being banned. I'll reupgrade if clonal colonies are allowed by Kepekley23 and others.

 

[Skalt711]

And about AP, SS and Dura of CO without clonal colonies...

Mid-end:

0.5*1910000 kg (wet General Sherma)*(108.184 m/s)^2 = 11177107852,48 joules, which is Large Building level.

High-end:

0.5*3300000 kg (Lindsey Creek tree's mass)*(108.184 m/s)^2 = 19311233462,4 joules, which is Large Building level.

 

[RRTheEndMan]

WAIT it got downgraded AGAIN?