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Composite Human (Real Life) vs Composite Gigantopithecus (Real Life)

Adem_Warlock69 said:
Composite Human skill stomp FRB
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How can CH skill stomp the monke? I only either see CH outsmarting the ded monke, or choking it to death via a grapple.

Both wincons are hard to do in an SBA match. That's why I recommended at least an hour of prep.

As for the vid, the martial artist was Mas Oyama. 2 sources alleged that he did kill bulls, I'm not sure how a bull in the mid to late 1900s would get to south-east asia. Even if we counted his feat as legit, it's more of a 9-C feat since the horns are made of bone & keratin & goats can knock out cows.

Even then, the way the video was made made it seem like it was trying to do the psychological effect that I can't even remember. Oyama is an impressive & great martial artist, but the footage on him really needs to be more legit. It's even suggested here that the bull horns were weakened & Oyama's bull fighting feats maybe a lie.
JohnCenaNation said:

Mas Oyama killed a wall level animal with a karate chop, no?
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Should we pull up this feat of a man killing a Bengal Tiger with a spear? Unless there's extra context I'm missing, why did you think having an unarmed, no prep CH against a stronger monke was a good idea?
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
How can CH skill stomp the monke? I only either see CH outsmarting the ded monke, or choking it to death via a grapple.

Both wincons are hard to do in an SBA match. That's why I recommended at least an hour of prep.

As for the vid, the martial artist was Mas Oyama. 2 sources alleged that he did kill bulls, I'm not sure how a bull in the mid to late 1900s would get to south-east asia. Even if we counted his feat as legit, it's more of a 9-C feat since the horns are made of bone & keratin & goats can knock out cows.

Even then, the way the video was made made it seem like it was trying to do the psychological effect that I can't even remember. Oyama is an impressive & great martial artist, but the footage on him really needs to be more legit. It's even suggested here that the bull horns were weakened & Oyama's bull fighting feats maybe a lie.

Should we pull up this feat of a man killing a Bengal Tiger with a spear? Unless there's extra context I'm missing, why did you think having an unarmed, no prep CH against a stronger monke was a good idea?
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Couldn't the Human not turn the Gigantopithecus into wine? Unless we don't count Jesus as a "real life human"?
 
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Don't forget that we also have Moses who is able to part the Red Sea. Unless we don't count Moses as a "real life human" either?
 
JohnCenaNation said:
Couldn't the Human not turn the Gigantopithecus into wine? Unless we don't count Jesus Christ as a "real life human"?
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This may get controversial, if this was argued during the time when CH was on VSBW, then I think it would be another reason for it to be moved.

Regardless, as a quick disclaimer, this is just going to be from my experience. The reason why I think standard christian & atheist that you'd likely see not get along is because of some atheists having negative experiences with christians & christians clashing with athiests & both of them saying some things out of ignorance.

The reason why religion from it's original source isn't allowed officially on the wiki is because we all have an emotional attachment to a strong belief, & we like to defend it regardless of how irrational it is.

As long as I know this thread won't become a controversial, I'll still reply here.

We do know that Pilate & Jesus was a real person, but most of the feats come from a book that has a series of other books made by different authors. The accuracy of each of those books, the old & new testament would be an analysis for another blog post.

I'll focus on the new testament. Most of the historical sources that proved Jesus's existence were after his life so the new testament is our only bet in evaluating his power.

From a scientific standpoint, Seth can't say it better than I could. An evaluation of historical Jesus requires an immense amount of work, but what's likely to be consistent with Jesus is best explained by Britannica here.

You'll probably have to wait for countless days for me to say if my boi Jesus can turn the beeg monke into wine.

JohnCenaNation said:
Don't forget that we also have Moses who is able to part the Red Sea. Unless we don't count Moses as a "real life human" either?
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We don't really know if he existed from a historical standpoint. Just another Schrodinger's cat until we can open the box.

"To understand Moses, you have to peer into that foggy dark in between the realms of myth and history."
 
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H3110l12345I20 said:
This may get controversial, if this was argued during the time when CH was on VSBW, then I think it would be another reason for it to be moved.

Regardless, as a quick disclaimer, this is just going to be from my experience. The reason why I think standard christian & atheist that you'd likely see not get along is because of some atheists having negative experiences with christians & christians clashing with athiests & saying things out of ignorance.

The reason why religion from it's original source isn't allowed officially on the wiki is because we all have an emotional attachment to a strong belief, & we like to defend it regardless of how irrational it is.

As long as I know this thread won't become a controversial, I'll still reply here.

We do know that Pilate & Jesus was a real person, but most of the feats come from a book that has a series of other books made by different authors. The accuracy of each of those books, the old & new testament would be an analysis for another blog post.

I'll focus on the new testament. Most of the historical sources that proved Jesus's existence were after his life so the new testament is our only bet in evaluating his power.

From a scientific standpoint, Seth can't say it better than I could. An evaluation of historical Jesus requires an immense amount of work, but what's likely to be consistent with Jesus is best explained by Britannica here.

You'll probably have to wait for countless days for me to say if my boi Jesus can turn the beeg monke into wine.


We don't really know if he existed from a historical standpoint. Just another Schrodinger's cat until we can open the box.

"To understand Moses, you have to peer into that foggy dark in between the realms of myth and history."
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I mean Comic Vine considers religious figures as real life humans, so not sure what's so controversial about it across the board. We also have the 15 feet tall Patagonian Giants, unless we don't count them as "real life human" but "real life giant" instead?
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JohnCenaNation said:
I mean Comic Vine considers religious figures as real life humans, so not sure what's so controversial about it across the board. We also have the 15 feet tall Patagonian Giants, unless we don't count them as "real life human" but "real life giant" instead?
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As I implied, religious figures here from their direct sources would cause instability since it would increase the chance of people fighting over beliefs, this would likely divide our community since everyone here is from different countries.

Don't believe me? Try & convince a flat earthen that the world is round

For the giants, I'll pull this source later but the max theoretical height of a person is a little over 9 ft. Any higher & you're dying already. As DarlingAurora said, source the info & we'll provide the context.
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
As I implied, religious figures here from their direct sources would cause instability since it would increase the chance of people fighting over beliefs, this would likely divide our community since everyone here is from different countries.

Don't believe me? Try & convince a flat earthen that the world is round

For the giants, I'll pull this source later but the max theoretical height of a person is a little over 9 ft. Any higher & you're dying already. As DarlingAurora said, source the info & we'll provide the context.
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Okay since you are mentioning source this or source that with you nitpicking the sources, I am going to ask you a similar question which might sound a bit controversial since we are debating humans here. How many genders do humans normally have? Two, a male and a female which can easily be proven. What about the humans that consider themselves genderless? How do we prove that? For example, if they take their clothes off from their bodies, are we going to be seeing sexless genital organs or are we going to be seeing genital organs belonging to both male and female? Get my point now? If someone says they are genderless, they are genderless no need to prove it by making them strip in front of you and the same logic can be applied here as well.
 
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JohnCenaNation said:
Okay since you are mentioning source this or source that with you nitpicking the sources, I am going to ask you a similar question which might sound a bit controversial since we are debating humans here. How many genders do humans normally have? Two, a male and a female which can easily be proven. What about the humans that consider themselves genderless? How do we prove that? For example, if they take their clothes off from their bodies, are we going to be seeing sexless genital organs or are we going to be seeing genital organs belonging to both male and female? Get my point now? If someone says they are genderless, they are genderless no need to prove it by making them strip in front of you and the same logic can be applied here as well.
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www.scienceabc.com

How Tall Can Humans Grow?

According to John Wass at University of Oxford, a specialist in acromegalic gigantism reckons our upper limit to be around 9 feet.
www.scienceabc.com www.scienceabc.com

The source above is evidence of 9 ft being the max height.

Correct me if I'm wrong or accidentally strawmanning here, but are you saying that we should believe everything we hear? Usually we believe the genderless person here by trust or by psychology of us being with the person for a short amount of time.

Technically there's no such thing as a 100% reliable source, but we should find the middle ground here by standards & critical thinking. You're making yourself look like you have no proof.

Where's the evidence we requested? If I'm nitpicking sources in the way we usually think, where is the evidence against me? Change my mind.
 
JohnCenaNation said:
How do we prove that? For example, if they take their clothes off from their bodies, are we going to be seeing sexless genital organs or are we going to be seeing genital organs belonging to both male and female?
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Depends on the perspective, biology & anatomy says humans have 3 actually, male, female & a mix of the 2. Identity wise it would be way more than the traditional 3.

There's also other ways to prove your gender, like facial features, legal documents, & body shape.
 
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DarlingAurora said:
Nothing of that is impressive compared with the Gigantophitecus.
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The first three blogs he mentioned were heavily outdated. You should be focusing on this blog instead which is the latest version.
DarlingAurora said:
Gigantophitecus are much stronger than Gorillas which deadlift more than 815 kg. Also, Gigantophitecus blacki downscales from bigger extinct-tigers.
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I mean the most a person could lift was 1,117 lbs.; most weight lifted by Atlas Stone lifts in one hour is 17,463.60 kg (38,500.65 lbs.); an aircraft weighing approximately 70 tons (154,323 lbs.) plus 300 kg (661 lbs.) of anchors and chains was the heaviest object pulled at the World's Strongest Man competition; heaviest vehicle pulled was 99,060 kg (218,389 lbs. 14.95 oz); Paul Anderson back lifted 6270 lbs, or 2844 kg, Gregg Ernst back lifted two cars, which weighed 5340 lbs. or 2422.183 kg. The highest standing jump is 1.616 meters. Javier Sotomayor has a high jump of over 8 feet. Mike Powell has a long jump of over 29 feet.
DarlingAurora said:
With a gun maybe, but the CH would have a hard time with the monke even with a shotgun.
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You do realize the strongest humans can chop wood and bricks, bend steel with kicks, punch down trees kill hogs by hitting them on the head? Jonah Lomu can produce this level of energy from a simple tackle; Lydia Angyiou managed to trade blows with a non-hungry Polar Bear.
 
JohnCenaNation said:
The first three blog he mentioned were heavily outdated. This is the latest Composite Human profile.
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No human is 9-C+, these only based on human KE and density which don't give nothing
JohnCenaNation said:
The first three blog he mentioned were heavily outdated. This is the latest Composite Human profile.

I mean the most a person could lift was 1,117 lbs.; most weight lifted by Atlas Stone lifts in one hour is 17,463.60 kg (38,500.65 lbs.); an aircraft weighing approximately 70 tons (154,323 lbs.) plus 300 kg (661 lbs.) of anchors and chains was the heaviest object pulled at the World's Strongest Man competition; heaviest vehicle pulled was 99,060 kg (218,389 lbs. 14.95 oz); Paul Anderson back lifted 6270 lbs, or 2844 kg, Gregg Ernst back lifted two cars, which weighed 5340 lbs. or 2422.183 kg. The highest standing jump is 1.616 meters. Javier Sotomayor has a high jump of over 8 feet. Mike Powell has a long jump of over 29 feet.
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Pulled and lifting in time is not impressive at all, my dad can pull a car and he is not Class 5 bruh. Why are you counting backlifting and not actual lifting which the record is only 500 kg? And bobcats can jump that high too 💀💀💀💀, nothing 9-C+
JohnCenaNation said:
You do realize the strongest humans can chop wood and bricks, bend steel with kicks, punch down trees kill hogs by hitting them on the head? Jonah Lomu can produce this level of energy from a simple tackle; Lydia Angyiou managed to trade blows with a non-hungry Polar Bear.
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A rock can knock out a hog too..

And these nothing impressive, bears can also casually do that, hell, even pits can rip off cars parts, and gorillas can break glass.. and leopards still easily hunts them.

More impressive? A hyena can break through a giraffe bone with one bite, basically a block of the size of a cat-head, impressive? Sure.... so?

Tackles aren't the best to be used on RL matches, in that case we can give 9-B to leopards tackles too. Btw, the polar bear thing is unimpressive as hell, these bears are easily scared of humans, also "non-hungry" 💀💀💀

Anyways, CH can fight a female gorilla at best, gorillas lift 800 kg and strongest human 500 kg, also this is a complete mismatch, change it to african leopard please.
 
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JohnCenaNation said:
Depends on the human with denser bones; scaling to durability. The hardest punch ever thrown was 129,161 units, which is said to be the equivalent to 96 horsepower equal to getting hit by a Ford Escort (1,804,640 J); Mike Tyson was able to punch with this much force. Shogun Rua was able to kick this hard; the strongest kicks and stomps can be on these levels.
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Bro really give 1 MJ to real life human.....

Mike Tyson punches are comparable to female gorillas punches, male punches are twice than that. I don't think any human can punch with a force stronger than mike tyson & kicks are impressive but still comparable to tyson punches.
 
JohnCenaNation said:
The first three blog he mentioned were heavily outdated. You should be focusing on this blog instead which is the latest version.

I mean the most a person could lift was 1,117 lbs.; most weight lifted by Atlas Stone lifts in one hour is 17,463.60 kg (38,500.65 lbs.); an aircraft weighing approximately 70 tons (154,323 lbs.) plus 300 kg (661 lbs.) of anchors and chains was the heaviest object pulled at the World's Strongest Man competition; heaviest vehicle pulled was 99,060 kg (218,389 lbs. 14.95 oz); Paul Anderson back lifted 6270 lbs, or 2844 kg, Gregg Ernst back lifted two cars, which weighed 5340 lbs. or 2422.183 kg. The highest standing jump is 1.616 meters. Javier Sotomayor has a high jump of over 8 feet. Mike Powell has a long jump of over 29 feet.

You do realize the strongest humans can chop wood and bricks, bend steel with kicks, punch down trees kill hogs by hitting them on the head? Jonah Lomu can produce this level of energy from a simple tackle; Lydia Angyiou managed to trade blows with a non-hungry Polar Bear.
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Those methods of pulling are different from a deadlift. The 9-B feats can be explained via context.

The bear wasn't at full strength & Lydia didn't overpower the bear. Hogs are 10-A on the wiki.

The blog is decent for a reference point but doesn't have the best tier judgement. CH is at best 9-C+
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
Those methods of pulling are different from a deadlift. The 9-B feats can be explained via context.

The bear wasn't at full strength & Lydia didn't overpower the bear. Hogs are 10-A on the wiki.

The blog is decent for a reference point but doesn't have the best tier judgement. CH is at best 9-C+
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I mean multiple real life characters used to be wall level before VS Battles Wiki downgraded them for some reason. For example, how on Earth are the dinosaurs not Small Building level just from their size alone???
 
JohnCenaNation said:
I mean multiple real life characters used to be wall level before VS Battles Wiki downgraded them for some reason. For example, how on Earth are the dinosaurs not Small Building level just from their size alone???
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Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan & others knowledgable in IRL dinos have the answer.

T. Rex is based off of it's KE now since they could ram at each other. The original rating for it was based off of it's bite, which staff like Spino deemed inaccurate. I could find the thread on this if you ask.

IRL isn't the same as fiction, it's treated more realistically & you need to have a different approach to scale things properly.

I can show you a person surviving a fall with 9-B potential energy.
 
Here's the posts & threads
JohnCenaNation said:
I mean multiple real life characters used to be wall level before VS Battles Wiki downgraded them for some reason. For example, how on Earth are the dinosaurs not Small Building level just from their size alone???
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btw, VSBW is more of a collaborative effort of different people working on different fictional franchises. You can't assume someone's group is one thing when everyone is different.
 
H3110l12345I20 said:
Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan & others knowledgable in IRL dinos have the answer.

T. Rex is based off of it's KE now since they could ram at each other. The original rating for it was based off of it's bite, which staff like Spino deemed inaccurate. I could find the thread on this if you ask.

IRL isn't the same as fiction, it's treated more realistically & you need to have a different approach to scale things properly.

I can show you a person surviving a fall with 9-B potential energy.
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I mean if a Tyrannosaurus Rex ram into your house, I am sure it would one-shot your house.
 
JohnCenaNation said:
I mean if a Tyrannosaurus Rex ram into your house, I am sure it would one-shot your house.
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Technically. I thought of something similar with the blue whale but these are reasons for the 9-B to 9-A borders. 9-A is determined by destroying a 7 by 7 m shack With my experience, I think it's from a blast calculator or destroying a specific amount of stone. It's stated by staff many times to be an oversimplified tiering system compared to IRL physics.

I know VSBW is different from comicvine but you should CRT this if you think this is wrong.
 
As I say, no athlete human weighed 1400 lbs in history, 200 kg at best.

If you use a 1400 lbs human, then you are using a fat human, which is a weakness for the CH as I say, this is not a combined human.
 
DarlingAurora said:
As I say, no athlete human weighed 1400 lbs in history, 200 kg at best.

If you use a 1400 lbs human, then you are using a fat human, which is a weakness for the CH as I say, this is not a combined human.
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What's the difference between Combined Human and Composite Human? If we are talking about Composite Human, every human records counts or else it won't be composite.
 
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JohnCenaNation said:
What's the difference between Combined Human and Composite Human? If we are talking about Composite Human, every human records counts or else it won't be composite.
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You are talking about a physic-breaking composite human? Because really, a composite human with a weight of 600 kg can break his legs with only standing
 
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