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Composite Human is fond of justice and dislikes bullies and annoying teachers, so he's going to try to kill Baldi

Ricsi-viragosi said:
Aplying much pressure to one point does ignore durability to an extent.
Plus he could just go for the eyes and ears, as those are far from durable.
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Again, this relies on getting in very close range, especially when it comes to applying lots of pressure (which is needed given the durability gap).

I find it extremely unlikely that the CH can apply enough force to attack both of Baldi's eyes without being left completely open to an instinctive ruler swing, which will be a shit-ton faster than before.
 
Rulers don't have 9B dura, its really not that hard to get in on somebody angrily flailing around a stuck, CH doesn't have fictional knowledge, those supernatural abilities aren't applicable. Also, no that's not how speed works at all. No real reason for CH to go for a block when CH has the knowledge of literally everyone and the skills of everyone, which combined lets them know that getting hit when they didn't need to is not a good idea. The ruler doesn't need to be broken for it to blind someone, disarms are a thing.
 
DMB 1 said:
Baldi would probably lose concentration when getting angry.
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It doesn't take much concentration to hit a guy once, especially when you're far faster than them, with basic brute force techniques.
 
Baldi is not faster than CH.
 
The Wright Way said:
CH FRA. It's entirely possible for him to choke Baldi out with his underware or shove a pen through his eye or something. The skill gap is that large.
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What underwear would the CH even wear... questions for later.

Again, both of these rely on getting far too close to Baldi, and Baldi certainly won't be happy with his eye being stabbed. He certainly shouldn't be able to overpower Baldi to the extent where he can choke him out with underwear of all things
 
I'll be back a bit later.
 
CH could easily disarm Baldi and throw him with leverage.

Baldi's supernatural powers aren't really usable in a melee fight.

Pressure points would cause Baldi's muscles to freeze up and would seriously hamper any speed advantage he might gain, assuming they don't just incapacitate him outright.
 
All ch needs to dude is dodge a hit by baldi, get behind him and push his fingers into baldi's eyes. After that the pain should put baldi in shock (Yes, that tends to happen with extreme pain) for him to take awa the lurel and do all kinds of nasty stuff to him
 
Wokistan said:
Rulers don't have 9B dura, its really not that hard to get in on somebody angrily flailing around a stuck, CH doesn't have fictional knowledge, those supernatural abilities aren't applicable. Also, no that's not how speed works at all. No real reason for CH to go for a block when CH has the knowledge of literally everyone and the skills of everyone, which combined lets them know that getting hit when they didn't need to is not a good idea. The ruler doesn't need to be broken for it to blind someone, disarms are a thing.
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Said ruler can likely one-shot the player who no-sells 9-B attacks, and it shows no signs of breaking from that.

That is how speed works. All of his speed evidently gets faster when he gets angrier, and he will outpace CH to a large extent as soon as he does something to seriously piss off Baldi.

Combined intelligence won't stop them from underestimating a maths teacher, or simply hitting him. There's no way that the CH will go so far as to take off their underwear, take down Baldi and choke him out instead of the seemingly viable option of taking them out with one punch. Which won't work at all.

Disarming someone with AP leagues higher?
 
Combined intelligence won't stop them from underestimating a maths teacher, or simply hitting him.

"Knows every single story, piece of media or work of fiction every conceived"
 
The Wright Way said:
CH could easily disarm Baldi and throw him with leverage.
Baldi's supernatural powers aren't really usable in a melee fight.

Pressure points would cause Baldi's muscles to freeze up and would seriously hamper any speed advantage he might gain, assuming they don't just incapacitate him outright.
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Again, disarming someone with AP leagues higher? Ik there's disarming techniques, but still it's not a magic trick.

His supernatural powers would be enough to throw the CH off-guard in surprise which could get Baldi the tap-on-the-neck that he needs on CH.

Pressure points won't work that quickly, and leaves the CH in Baldi's range
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Combined intelligence won't stop them from underestimating a maths teacher, or simply hitting him.
"Knows every single story, piece of media or work of fiction every conceived"
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Your point is?
 
Lifting strength is what determines whether you can disarm someone or grapple them and CH has a pretty big advantage there.
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Speed
Baldi: Peak Human

CH: SuperHuman combat speed
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May I remind you that Baldi gets angrier for, presumably, a child, who gets a maths question wrong insomuch that he goes on a bloodlusted rampage to kill said child. And when he gets angrier, he gets a lot faster
 
Lifting strenght and AP has zero to do with each other

His supernatural powers would be enough to throw the CH off-guard in surprise which could get Baldi the tap-on-the-neck that he needs on CH.

Exept he has knowledge on ALL fictional works, video games included

May I remind you that Baldi gets angrier for, presumably, a child, who gets a maths question wrong insomuch that he goes on a bloodlusted rampage to kill said child. And when he gets angrier, he gets a lot faster

He is peak human while angry
 
When he gets a lot faster from rage he reaches peak human speed, until then he's only at below average to athletic human levels. It's an nlf to assume he's gonna go beyond that peak human level he reaches at the end.
 
The Wright Way said:
Lifting strength is what determines whether you can disarm someone or grapple them and CH has a pretty big advantage there.
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Baldi's lifting strength is unknown.

Baldi's raw power should be a factor as to how well he can keep a hold of his ruler
 
May I remind you that Baldi gets angrier for, presumably, a child, who gets a maths question wrong insomuch that he goes on a bloodlusted rampage to kill said child. And when he gets angrier, he gets a lot faster

Still no indication he can get any faster than Superhuman or else that would be on his profile.
 
Baldi's lifting strength is unknown.

Baldi's raw power should be a factor as to how well he can keep a hold of his ruler

AP only determines how hard you can hit someone, not how well you can grapple something. CH has superior LS so he can disarm Baldi easily.
 
Guys, Combat Speed =/= Reaction Speed. And CH's combat speed is based off of a punch, not a throw or pressing on someone's eyes
 
Baldi's lifting strength is unknow

And that means nothing, litiraly. We simply scale him to the strongest character in verse to be nice, he still lacks LS
 
Combat Speed =/= Reaction Speed

You... you realize human reaction speed is much higher than peak human running speed. And his swinging is average human by that logic, with only his running speed being affected.
 
Combat speed is reaction speed. You can punch, block, and dodge at those speeds. You're thinking of attack speed.
 
By the way, is Gotta Sweep really only as fast as 1st prize? It seems much faster.
 
No. Reaction speed is being able to notice something and react to it. Combat speed is being able to consistently fight at that speed. Attack speed is the speed at wich your attacks are moving.
 
You can't say that someone has an advantage over another when said other person's stats are unknown.

Class 5 lifting strength is not superior to Unknown lifting strength, unless you want to say that CH could grapple and disarm the likes of Vegeta for example
 
Ricsi-viragosi said:
Combat Speed =/= Reaction Speed
You... you realize human reaction speed is much higher than peak human running speed. And his swinging is average human by that logic, with only his running speed being affected.
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On this site, we go off of what's on the profile. It CLEARLY specifies that only the CH's combat speed is Superhuman. If their reaction speed was quantifiably higher then it should be on there.

Combat speed does not equal reaction speed.
 
You can't say that baldi is stronger at lifting. Burden of proof. CH has feats, baldi doesn't and has nothing to suggest anything beyond what CH has.
 
Class 5 is definitely superior to Baldi's lifting strength, considering Baldi is not tier 2 and the DBZ characters are more there due to inconsistency. Punches and kicks can move at hundreds of miles per hour btw, and there's ways to disarm independent of strength. Wrist locks are great for that. Also, Baldi's AP actually makes getting thrown a lot worse for him, due to the while redirection of energy thing he's getting slammed a lot harder in to a wall then CH could if he just picked him up and did that. Pressure points work pretty fast if you put your weight in to them, at least for the purpose of causing debilitating pain to facilitate a takedown. Baldi has a nervous system.
 
Isn't CH's reaction speed however Subsonic because of that human who cut an airsoft pellet flying midair? Or does that count as low-level precog?

In any way, if Composite Human has non-supernatural, peak human precog, then the advantage grows even more to their side.

And yeah, CH should be stronger than Baldi, who has never demonstrated significant lifting strength feats and may as well be Human level as far as we know. Baldi has so far only lifted a ruler. That's below human average.
 
You can't say that Baldi is weaker at lifting. Burden of proof.

Baldi has a higher AP which suggests he is stronger than what CH has. However, I'm not going to make an argument based off of unknown statistics
 
You're right, combat speed does not equal reaction speed. Reaction speed is only the speed for dodging, while combat speed is speed of all actions taken in combat, including dodging, punching, kicking, etc.
 
You can't say that Baldi is weaker at lifting. Burden of proof

We presented logic, you have to counter it. The strongest showing there was in his verse is not as good as CH. There is zero reason to assume baldi is stronger than said showing.
 
Actually, burden of proof is on you to show feats of Baldi lifting more than 6270 pounds. Until then, CH has higher liftng strength. CH outspeeds Baldi in all of the speed categories btw.
 
In reality, I'm pretty sure Mike Tyson can't backlift the weight that specialized weight lifters can.

Baldi is not specialized on lifting. The reason why Composite Human has all the power they have is because they are the best of each human being, the best of humanity, even if a quality would require specialization.
 
Wokistan said:
Class 5 is definitely superior to Baldi's lifting strength, considering Baldi is not tier 2 and the DBZ characters are more there due to inconsistency. Punches and kicks can move at hundreds of miles per hour btw, and there's ways to disarm independent of strength. Wrist locks are great for that. Also, Baldi's AP actually makes getting thrown a lot worse for him, due to the while redirection of energy thing he's getting slammed a lot harder in to a wall then CH could if he just picked him up and did that. Pressure points work pretty fast if you put your weight in to them, at least for the purpose of causing debilitating pain to facilitate a takedown. Baldi has a nervous system.
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Nearly all of what you said requires CH to get dangerously close to Baldi for it to work, specifically the pressure point... point. Punching Baldi would be like punching a wall and would hurt CH.

Though if CH gets subsonic reaction speeds added to his profile I'll concede that he wins this match. Right now, not much seems to be able to stop the very viable strategy of Baldi tapping CH just once.
 
GyroNutz said:
You can't say that Baldi is weaker at lifting. Burden of proof.

Baldi has a higher AP which suggests he is stronger than what CH has. However, I'm not going to make an argument based off of unknown statistics
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Baldi's only lifting strength feat is lifting his ruler. CH on the other hand clearly can lift much more.
 
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