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Combined Human vs. Muffet
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she monolouges before doing it, and on what basisis she not trying? shje keeps smiling while you kill her, so thats not itKeeweed said:
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she monolouges before doing it, and on what basisis she not trying? shje keeps smiling while you kill her, so thats not it
A few things, but the main three being that she causally talks the whole time, she only used only a single cup of the liquid when she has 6 arms, and she takes money from you in the fight (plus the whole fight started because she thought you didn't like spiders; she's going to she the CH differently considering he going to be trying to murder her and her spider right off the bat).
A few things, but the main three being that she causally talks the whole time, she only used only a single cup of the liquid when she has 6 arms, and she takes money from you in the fight (plus the whole fight started because she thought you didn't like spiders; she's going to she the CH differently considering he going to be trying to murder her and her spider right off the bat).
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she also talks and takes money while being a hit away from deathKeeweed said:
genocide rout disagrees
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i agree, but this is no stomp
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by being able to oneshot as stated by ut canon and being able to shoot much faster than 3 secondsYobobojojo said:
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he i the best ****** in the worldYobobojojo said:
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Doesn't CH one-shot anyway? Since he's Small Town level+ while Muffet is just Small Town level?
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not with long ranged guns,which we are arguing herePaulo.junior.969 said:
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Oh, his guns can't do shit to Muffet.
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frisk could kill peapole whit an empity gun with pure bloodlust...Paulo.junior.969 said:
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Frisk is a 7-C who can gain more power by simply staying determined.
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his lv is bloodlust, not dt, dt increases defense hp and gives resurrectionPaulo.junior.969 said:
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Muffet can be bribed to lower the intensity of her attacks. Weak against murder intentions.Paulo.junior.969 said:
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Unless the murder intentions makes her literally thousands of times weaker, guns arent helping.
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looking that frisk did do thousrnt of timrs more dammage with bloodlust id say so (while pacifist rout can scrach city levels via dt, they can one shot them via bloodlust), and chg is much worse than frisk wasPaulo.junior.969 said:
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Going from scratching to one-shoting is not thousands of times more damage, and the gap between Pacifist Frisk and Muffet is much, much smaller than the one between Muffet and a gun.
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but the amount of dammage is (from hundreds to hundreds of thousent ) is. and she tends to talk before fighting, so its not like ch doesent get the time to go in rangePaulo.junior.969 said:
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Just because a Tier 7 went from damaging them normally to one-shoting them, doesn't mean a Tier 9 weapon will go from not even scratching to one-shoting.
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but he can get in range, or just run away and get a nuke (they are 4 kms away from each other and know ch knows what she can do)Paulo.junior.969 said:
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Good for him.
Also: Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers.
Also: Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers.
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whyYobobojojo said:
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Standard Equipment: Unknown (Though anything humans have made or know of that could remotely be used for combat, it would be able to as well)
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How do you even scale these guys without accounting for the murderous intent/determination system? Without it Muffet is fodder who lost to a small child, with it CH should still easily win with the combined murderous intent of all of humanity. And applying it only to Muffet is flawed since Frisk can range from below human level to multiverse level and there's no way to tell where Muffet falls on that scale.
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im changing to ch due to him being able to get away from muffet and she getting to him is unlikely, and he could just get a car, go get a tank or something and kill her that way
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It's hard to know to what extend the murderous intentions increase the damage, mostly due to Frisk's inconsistent AP.
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Also, murderous intentions can literally oneshot any monster. And a single human soul is as powerful if not moreso than all monster souls combined. The library in Snowdin reveals that since monsters are magic based, their combat abilities are mostly based on emotion and if someone with a powerful soul struck with the desire to kill they'd be done for.
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it doesent really matter, he could just go get themYobobojojo said:
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Well, "powerful souls" in Undertale are like, up to 7-C, so, that probably wouldn't help much with the Tier 9 weapons CH uses. CH does have the advantage in physical AP tho.
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frisks soul is above all other human souls (not combined)Jobbo said:
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I know, I was referring to the average human soul. Asriel was able to emulate the power of a single human soul by absorbing the entire underground except for Napstablook. This allowed him to infinitely transcend his former self, implying a single human soul has infinite power in Undertale.Ricsi-viragosi said:
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yeah, just pointing it out
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