Combined Human vs. Muffet

[The_Wright_Way]

I'm going to be sad to see a loss on Combines Humans page, it feels so right for it to have just victories. But CH can't deal with soul manipulation without hax; shame there's no durability ignoring equipment in real life.
Muffet FRA.

I'm pretty sure radiation and poisons ignore durability.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

He's clearly joking. However, CH can't deal with soul manip. Muffet borderline curbstomps.

Soul manipulation didn't help Papyrus when they fought. This seems pretty fair to me.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I'm pretty sure radiation and poisons ignore durability.

i dont see how hed use radiation in a close fight. idk if poison works on monsters tho, they dont have an actual body

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Soul manipulation didn't help Papyrus when they fought. This seems pretty fair to me.

paps doesent block you in one place tho

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I'm pretty sure radiation and poisons ignore durability.

i dont see how hed use radiation in a close fight. idk if poison works on monsters tho, they dont have an actual body

I was correcting the statement that nothing in real life ignores durability and for the soul manipulation I'm just pointing out that this is still fair.

 

[Therefir]

If CH can't move, this is a stomp.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

If CH can't move, this is a stomp.

he can oneshot before she cathes him though

 

[Keeweed]

he can oneshot before she cathes him though

No he can't; Muffet's attack fills the whole room within 2 seconds

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No he can't; Muffet's attack fills the whole room within 2 seconds

and he can shoot at her and oneshot with pure bloodlust

 

[BruceTheBatman]

If there's no magic in the real world tho, or other supernatural phenomenon, CH doesn't have a soul and is just a meat bag controlled by their nervous system

Therefore SM is useless

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

If there's no magic in the real world tho, or other supernatural phenomenon, CH doesn't have a soul and is just a meat bag controlled by their nervous system
Therefore SM is useless

standard battle assumptions disagree with you

 

[Yobo_Blue]

• This profile is only a merge of all the positive and beneficial traits human beings possess. None of the negative attributes, flaws and handicaps that would inhibit its abilities.
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[Yobo_Blue]

IMO, fights with hax like this with CH should always give prep and prior knowledge to be fair.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Spider Lady for the reasons above, CH has really no defence against having his soul immobilized by a magic web and then destroyed by danmaku.

 

[Therefir]

That's why this is a stomp.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

That's why this is a stomp.

^^^^^ THIS

 

[The_Wright_Way]

CH now has prior knowledge.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

No good without prep or weapon list

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Yeah unless CH gets prep time the only thing knowledge will do is let CH think about all the ways he is about to lose.

 

[Keeweed]

He could have every weapon on earth and still lose due to the webs trapping him within 2 seconds.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Well, with weapons, CH could be 7-B, but at standard distance, nuking the place would probably kill him too.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Unless he calculated the exact distance the radiation would travel and dropped it to hit Muffet only.

That's a stretch though.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Isn't SBA 4 km?

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Then that prep is sorely needed

 

[Assaltwaffle]

And then CH stomps. Sets up an array of traps that will render pretty much every action Muffet takes a death sentence. I really think this is a stomp, one way or the other.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Depends on how much prep is given

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And then CH stomps. Sets up an array of traps that will render pretty much every action Muffet takes a death sentence. I really think this is a stomp, one way or the other.

but ch can litiraly one shot her with a hand gun

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@Ricsi

A handgun doesn't have Small Town level AP.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

@Ricsi
A handgun doesn't have Small Town level AP.

all ut monsters can be killed via bloodlust alone

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Weaknesses: Muffet can be bribed to lower the intensity of her attacks. Weak against murder intentions.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Not enough to be hurt by a handgun.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Not enough to be hurt by a handgun.

enough to be hurt by a gun whitout bullets

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Huh?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Huh?

one of frisks weapons is a gun whitout loads

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

if killing 200 monsters gave frisk enough lv to do 9 999 999 dammage than ch has more than enough

 

[Assaltwaffle]

We can't scale like that. Putting CH into their world's level system would be too hard to manage. We keep their tiers where they are.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

We can't scale like that. Putting CH into their world's level system would be too hard to manage. We keep their tiers where they are.

yes, but he still has bloodlust thousents of times above frisk at the point they fought muffet. and its a direct weakness

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Well I'm not a Undertale expert, but I am pretty sure we agreed we wouldn't VS matchups against them like that. Also it doesn't matter if CH can kill her if he is bound by soul webs.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Well I'm not a Undertale expert, but I am pretty sure we agreed we wouldn't VS matchups against them like that. Also it doesn't matter if CH can kill her if he is bound by soul webs.

it needs a few seconds to web him , and the only agreement is that we dont give dt to them