Cole Macgrath vs Laxus Dreyar

[The_Calaca]

Dragon Slayers have constantly shown to be uneffected by enemies elemental attacks that are way stronger than themselves. It is only with God Slayer lightning which is prefix with both being able to bypass elemental resistance and unable to be absorbed by regular means

Coincidentally the same abilities Cole's lightnings has.

 

[CNBA3]

That is when he was doing after being fisted in the face. And strangely enough he did the same thing to Orga who has those abilities too. Besides, nothing suggests that Cole's lightning can't be assimilated iirc. If otherwise, Laxus would just find another way to eat it. And it is proven that DS can eat éléments stronger than themselves, Etherion (granted has more than one element but still contains their element none the less), Dragons, Spriggans, etc..

 

[The_Wright_Way]

That is when he was doing after being fisted in the face. And strangely enough he did the same thing to Orga who has those abilities too. Besides, nothing suggests that Cole's lightning can't be assimilated iirc. If otherwise, Laxus would just find another way to eat it. And it is proven that DS can eat éléments stronger than themselves, Etherion (granted has more than one element but still contains their element none the less), Dragons, Spriggans, etc..

It can't be assimilated because people who assimilate lightning can't assimilate it. It's that simple.

 

[The_Calaca]

Just because Natsu can eat Zancrow's fire doesn't mean Laxus can eat Orga's lightning. That's the same as saying that if Goku has precognition, Vegeta has it as well because they are both Saiyans and have access to godly transformations.

Natsu ate Zancrow's fire with a special trick and he ended in a very poor state afterwards. You can't assume that Laxus'd figure it out with the same trick.

 

[CNBA3]

That does not make sense really people who can assimilate can't assimilate? Wat?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Then this is a stomp the same way Laxus vs Gilthunder is a stomp. Cole's powers ignore Laxus's resistance and he already has the AP advantage while resisting all of Laxus's attacks. Factor in Cole's regen and resurrection, there's not a win condition for Laxus here.

 

[CNBA3]

It is not like a technique that they can or can't do, it is a method of overcoming something, which anyone can do with the right conditions.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

That does not make sense really people who can assimilate can't assimilate? Wat?

They can assimilate lightning but can't assimilate Cole's lightning.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Then this is a stomp the same way Laxus vs Gilthunder is a stomp. Cole's powers ignore Laxus's resistance and he already has the AP advantage while resisting all of Laxus's attacks. Factor in Cole's regen and resurrection, there's not a win condition for Laxus here.

Cole also has skill (he defeated Kessler, who has all of Cole's powers and more, plus being faster enough to appear as a blur from Cole's perspective and having nearly hundreds of years of experience and having knowledge of Cole's character and powers due to being him from the future), range, intelligence, and versatility. Cole stomps hard.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Right.

 

[CNBA3]

Why can't cole's electricity be absorbed?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Why can't cole's electricity be absorbed?

Because Kessler and David can't absorb it despite being able to absorb it from literally anything else.

 

[CNBA3]

Well, logically Kessler and Cole are the same person just from alternate timelines, so that would explain something, not sure about David, but I am certain that does not make him immune to all electricity/power absorption in existence

 

[The_Wright_Way]

We logically Kessler and Cole are the same person just from alternate timelines, so that would explain something, not sure about David, but I am certain that does not make him immune to all electricity/power absorption in existence

Never said it did. I was talking in universe.

 

[CNBA3]

Ok, well, just saying when outside universe, depending his opponents, his lightning can be effected

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Ok, well, just saying when outside universe, depending his opponents, his lightning can be effected

Good thing that's not the case here.

 

[CNBA3]

Which is does.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Which is does.

?

 

[CNBA3]

Since he can eat lightning of different kind, including electromagnetic energy in general.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Since he can eat lightning of different kind, including electromagnetic energy in general.

As can Kessler and David and you know where this is going.

 

[CNBA3]

Laxus can just find a way around it, by emptying their own magic power to create a vessel for the their respective element that normally cannot be absorbed

 

[The_Calaca]

I already told you that's Natsu who did that.

You can't assume Laxus'd figure it out. He's not Natsu.

 

[CNBA3]

Laxus is smart though, he can figure it out along the line, nothing suggests only Natsu can do that. And he is a slayer like him, he would figure out something that would help him like his previous battles

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Laxus is smart though, he can figure it out along the line. And he is a slayer like him, he would figure out something that would help him like his previous battles

We can't assume he can if he hasn't shown any ability to.

 

[CNBA3]

That is not an ability, it is a method or trick to doing something, it is not a named technique, it is something to overcome an obstacle, do you call finding a rope to climb over a wall a technique compared to someone who has the ability to crawl on the wall?

 

[The_Calaca]

What a false equivalency. It's not something that easy to figure it out and even if he can do it overtime he won't heal from that.

Cole uses lightnings => Laxus absorb and replenishes his stamina.

Laxus uses lightnings => Coles absorbs, heals and replenishes his stamina.

He'll stack damage despite the lightning ate.

 

[CNBA3]

There is no damage though unless Cole gets physical, just with Laxus in this case, that is really his only option, even then he will use Cole's lightning to harm him.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

That is not an ability, it is a method or trick to doing something, it is not a named technique, it is something to overcome an obstacle, do you call finding a rope to climb over a wall a technique compared to someone who has the ability to crawl on the wall?

It's not an obstacle he's shown to be able to overcome. Especially against someone who beats him in every category.

 

[The_Calaca]

I'm done here. You're just assuming that Laxus'd eat Cole's lightnings at the first try and because of that he won't be damaged at all from an attack that's at least 2x stronger.

The NLF and wank isn't Natsu's exclusive.

 

[CNBA3]

Yes it can since he has shown to eat stronger enemies lightning without trouble, even while sick with a disease meant to kill Wizards

 

[The_Calaca]

Despite the fact that this lightning isn't only stronger but resistance to absorption and bypasses lightning resistance.

You're going in circles. None of your arguments debunks nothing.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

There is no damage though unless Cole gets physical, just with Laxus in this case, that is really his only option, even then he will use Cole's lightning to harm him.

Just gonna ignore the fact that his rockets, grenades and shockwaves all use kinetic energy explosions to hurt opponents, Cole can reflect attacks with shockwaves, can use shields to absorb energy attacks, can amp his speed to the point where other MHS+ look like they're moving in slow motion, can amp his strength through several means, has mid-low regen, and can evolve to adapt to certain situations?

 

[CNBA3]

All Slayers were hit with elements that have kinetic energy to them as well, and they do not show any damage afterwards.

@Calaca just like with God Lightning which is not excerpt from absorption two

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Oh so Dragon Slayers are resistant to kinetic energy now?

 

[CNBA3]

Oh so Dragon Slayers are resistant to kinetic energy now?

Unless you can show them being damaged by kinetic blasts from their elements

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I think we can all agree that Cole stomps as CNBA has resorted to repeating his arguments until he wins and hasn't actually debunked anything. Cole has literally every advantage to a hilarious degree and will only get healed from Laxus's attacks, which doesn't go both ways.

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm never making a damn FT thread again

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Unless you can show them being damaged by kinetic blasts from their elements

Prove that they resist KE way stronger than them, then we'll talk.

 

[CNBA3]

You haven't debunked how Laxus is damaged by superior lightning yet either (barring God Lightning)

 

[DragonEmperor23]

I'm never a damn FT thread agai

Oof