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Classroom of the Elite/Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e Discussion Thread

Should we make a feats section in the calculations? Something like:

Feats:
This section consists of feats that can't have/don't need to have calcs.

Attack Potency:
  • Ayanokoji breaks a leg: 9.92 KJ (Street+)

Speed:

Lifting Strength:
  • Sudou's Grip Strength: 80 Kg (Athletic Human)
  • Ayanokoji's potential grip strength: at least 100 Kg (Athletic Human)
  • Koenji wrestles a wild bore: Class 1
 
DeltaStriker22 said:
Should we make a feats section in the calculations? Something like:

Feats:
This section consists of feats that can't have/don't need to have calcs.

Attack Potency:
  • Ayanokoji breaks a leg: 9.92 KJ (Street+)

Speed:

Lifting Strength:
  • Sudou's Grip Strength: 80 Kg (Athletic Human)
  • Ayanokoji's potential grip strength: at least 100 Kg (Athletic Human)
  • Koenji wrestles a wild bore: Class 1
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Sudou's Gripping Strength alone comes near 160 kg if done with two hands, Ayanokouji should have 200 kg. Kouenji is understandable.
 
Tsukishiro and Shiba should have their profiles updated for Lifting Strength. They shouldn't be comparable to Ayanokouji eh.
 
So, this would be the final scaling chain. I realized my previous scaling chain had some flaws in it, so why should I not make some improvements and with some scans this time?:

Scaling chain: Ayanokouji > Shirou > Yuuki >= The professional fighters Ayanokouji fought at the age of 9 (they might scale higher than Yuuki) > Yagami >= Shiba >= Tsukishiro > Ichika > Koenji >= Housen > Manabu > Albert > Weakened Ichika (she's likely here) > Nagumo >= Nanase (Eiichiro Matsuo form) > Sudou > Ryuuen >= Kitou > Base Nanase (yes) > Ibuki >= Suzune

  • Ayanokouji is in the top because I don't need to explain it.
  • Shirou is second highest because even though he was overpowered by Ayanokouji in a few last moments, he still chose withdrawal from the White Room on his own accord. And Ayanokouji himself said that his brawls with Shirou were extreme diffs.
  • Yuuki scales higher than the rest of the characters because she's from level 10 and being around 6 levels above is a big difference, Yagami and Ichika were never even given level 5 training.
  • The professional fighters Ayanokouji fought at the age of 9 have their place as controversial, but I think it's better to put them there. They were directly stated to be better than White Room instructors. We know that those instructors taught Ayanokouji everything until Level 10, meaning that these instructors should be superior to the entire 5th-gen, for being able to teach Ayanokouji things at the level 10. While it has not been confirmed, it is easy to deduce that instructors have their levels as well. The guys being better than the instructors should scale them very much higher than the rest of the verse.
  • Yagami being above Shiba and Tsukishiro is controversial as well. But I think Yagami should be better than them. Shiba could cripple Amasawa but Amasawa made it clear that she didn't fight back, and she could if she wished. Amasawa was so afraid of Yagami that she didn't even blink, and Yagami basically even blitzed her, Amasawa couldn't even break free from Takuya's grip. Narratively and with more feats, Yagami is faster than Shiba who is the fastest in the Tsukishiro-Shiba duo and is very strong, seeing how he could grip Amasawa so hard that she couldn't break free, while she said that she could fight back with Shiba.
  • I don't need to explain Shiba and Tsukishiro I guess, while both have similar APs, Shiba is somewhat. faster.
  • Amasawa is placed below Shiba and Tsukishiro because while she didn't fight back Shiba, she still said that Shiba could come back better.
  • Kouenji is above Housen because he was very confident that he could take the entire Ryuuen gang, while Housen fell in dirty tricks of Ryuuen. Secondly, Kouenji was above the year 3 students in the Year 2 Island-arc, and he effortlessly destroyed them, so I guess he is above Housen.
  • Housen is perfectly placed and is self-explanatory.
  • Manabu is below Housen but above the rest because Manabu was implied to be the best by Suzune herself before wonders like Ayanokouji appeared, he is a master of martial arts, and we know that he could evade an attack from Ryuuen while having his eyes covered with snow (couldn't find the scan but it is in his profile), so, in terms of pure ability, he is above Ryuuen. I put him above Albert because he's got narratives, and I don't think he cannot beat Albert, his battle IQ is very high, and he has a statement of being able to knock out THE Ayanokouji, when he was just out of the White Room and near his prime, albeit through techniques rather than better AP of course.
  • Albert is above Weakened Ichika and looks like I underrated him. He was said to be able to overpower at least Weakened Ichika by Suzune, upon the amount of abilities she had shown her.
  • Weakened Ichika or 20% Ichika to put it better, is there because she was said to be able to take on both Suzune and Ibuki at once by Suzune herself and had "unrealistic" strength even in that state. She's below Housen because Suzune thought she could get overpowered by Housen (in that state at the least), while it is also possible that she might be above Housen as well, due to her not showing her full capabilities in that fight. But it is important to note that Amasawa even in her weakened state should be much above the characters above her for now because she is basically scaled off Suzune's statements.
  • Nagumo was underrated by me. I think he is near to Weakened Ichika because of him being a former opponent of Manabu, being above the level of the most athletic students, and of course, he has a feat of being one-shot by Ayanokouji while Nanase in her Eiichiro Matsuo has the same, but due to his own confidence and some statements and his OAA primarily, I don't think he's below even the awakened Nanase, but still, I gave him comparable or superior to Nanase in the chain.
  • Nanase in her Eiichiro Matsuo has literal exponential multipliers, but she was still said by Ayanokouji to be worthy of getting one-shot so why not.
  • Sudou is below awakened Nanase because Sudou was getting easily done by Housen despite Housen not even swinging his arm, I don't think Nanase when in Boku mode is this fodder to Housen, especially when she caught an attack from a casual Ichika who might be as fast as an Ichika in crippled state.
  • Ryuuen is below Sudou for some obvious reasons.
  • Kitou is comparable to Ryuuen for Year 2 Volume 8 skiing match and him being Arisu's perfect weapon against Ryuuen.
  • Base Nanase was comparing to Suzune and Ibuki in the volleyball match. I am only putting her above Ibuki because Ayanokouji swung his arm well before trying to one-shot Base Nanase while he did that with a light-hand to Ibuki.
  • Ibuki is comparable to Suzune in speed but slightly higher in AP.
  • Suzune is unquestionably there, yes.
 
Dinozxd said:
Justice for my boy Albert bruh. Bud literally tanked Casual Ayanokouji's punches and made him worry about holding back and use pressure points.
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For the same reasons, I proposed the idea of extraordinary durability via muscle mass for him.
 
Dinozxd said:
Maybe giving Albert Pain Resistence or something like that would work too?
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No, he isn't enduring Ayanokouji's hits, and it's highly unlikely that he cannot be one-shot by Ayanokouji because Ayanokouji was confident that he could one-shot even Shiba. Shiba's AP >>> Albert's AP easily, so, Albert's AP =/= Durability and Durability >>> AP, even if he had endurance, he cannot resist a one-shot. Albert has extraordinary durability through muscle mass for obvious reasons.
 
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Revealed that Koenji can bench 200kg

Mii-chan bought a face towel and a hand towel for him. (An expensive organic towel, about 12,000 points) (Wang girl is what Koenji calls her) (T/N: time for that mf to bath).
He was in a hurry, and walks away, so they secretly follow him.
 
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