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Charlotte Katakuri Vs Naruto Uzumaki

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... Luffy in Base/2nd Gear is 1.7TT scaling to Doflamingo's Black Knight, which has a 1.7TT feat. Doflamingo noted that Gear 4th made him 3 times stronger, which was after he took Kong Gun and Rhino Schneider, 2 standard attacks. He is 5.17TT (Small Country+) in Gear 4th as a result.

Katakuri scales because he could injure Gear 4th Luffy with his attacks and staggered him with his initial Strong Mochi punch.
 
Pretty funny that people are saying Luffy is 6-B instead of low 6-B and accusing other's of wank. No saying Luffy is a solid 6-B is wank.


Anyway Katakuri made Gear Fourth hack up blood with a punch. So he scales, don't like it then make a CRT. simple as that.
 
Hey I'm not accusing anyone of wank. I'm just asking if he would be solid 6-B since attacks like leo bazooka use two hands. Hence double the power as two hands are > one. It more a question, a proposition, but not a statement.
 
Well, you're comment was below mine, plus it seemed in line with most of what I was saying. I found it fairly easy to assume it was given the circumstances. But whatever, my bad then.
 
1) 843 x 5 is 4.215 Teratons for Naruto. And the page claims that Naruto contributed to the majority of crater to that would be at least 50% making Naruto 5 Teratons.

2) It is irrelevant if Naruto cannot destroy the whole body, if the cells of Katakuri are destroyed. The mechanics of RS are explicitly said by Tsunade (a medical HOKAGE) to be made of little wind chakra blades that slice apart the cells. And it's clearly been accepted as not wank, since it's on our page. Katakuri cannot regenerate from it if his cells (the very thing he needs to regenerate from) are turned to mush.

3) How on earth is he gonna be able to deal with multiple clones with the same durability or AT LEAST attack potency as Naruto (since two different ones could fight against and survive hits from Madara and the Third Raikage)?

Only thing helps Katakuri now is his Awakening, and it still won't help him deall against dozenss of Teraton Rasenshuriken.

Still voting Naruto.
 
I don't see how getting injured at the cellular level will do anything special to someone made of Mochi.
 
You know. Naruto cant harm someone made of mochi who's also stronger than him. This fight is simply Katakuri waiting until he feels like finishing naruto with that mochi-gatling.

Dozens of 5 teratons rashenshurikens? Noice, now how about dozens of mochi punches.

And you forget that Katakuri abuses his precog like there is no tomorrow.

AP: Katakuri (5.1 TT vs 4.1 TT).

Dura: refer to AP

Hax: pseudointangibility + non-cellular physiology trumps cellular attacks. AND Katakuri's Precog. AND Awakening.

Intelligence: Katakuri (though Naruto is pretty sneakyN this likely isnt a matter of importance).

Experience: Katakuri

Naruto's clone spam is no problem when Katakuri can launch several dozens of mochu punchs and Awakening pretty much gives him field advantage.
 
PaChi2 said:
You know. Naruto cant harm someone made of mochi who's also stronger than him. This fight is simply Katakuri waiting until he feels like finishing naruto with that mochi-gatling.
Dozens of 5 teratons rashenshurikens? Noice, now how about dozens of mochi punches.

And you forget that Katakuri abuses his precog like there is no tomorrow.

AP: Katakuri (5.1 TT vs 4.1 TT (it's actually 5.01792115)).

Dura: refer to AP

Hax: pseudointangibility + non-cellular physiology trumps cellular attacks. AND Katakuri's Precog. AND Awakening.

Intelligence: Katakuri (though Naruto is pretty sneakyN this likely isnt a matter of importance).

Experience: Katakuri

Naruto's clone spam is no problem when Katakuri can launch several dozens of mochu punchs and Awakening pretty much gives him field advantage.
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I've just proved that Naruto is also 5 teratons, so no Katakuri doesn't have the AP/Dura advantage.

With regards to One Piece, Logias or people with Logia like powers don't have normal celluar physiology. But in order to make it fair, Logia is regarded as Regenerationn and that Regenration Mid/High-Mid is not enought to regenerate from an attack that cuts your cells to shreds.

Like I said before, Precog means nothing for Naruto since he can also sense negative emotions or malice. Yes he can launch several dozens of Mochi punches but Naruto can make literal thousand of clones - and before you say that that would decrease his AP, when he made thousands of clones against Kaguya they were still able to harm her on their own.

Naruto also has the intelligence advantage since he is easily capable of using strategies against people more powerful than him. Naruto could switch himself or a clone with a giant shuriken or a Rasenshuriken to trick Katakuri, he could hide himself in the Mochi like Kakashi/other ninja have hid themselves inside the ground. And he could easily summon the Toads, yeah, remember them, to eat large amounts of Mochi and to cast illusions - which rely mainly on sound so using the whole no chakra thing won't work here - not to mention the fact that they can use water to negate the effectiveness of Mochi.

Still Naruto, although at this point Katakuri probably has more votes.
 
You just said Naruto was 4.2TT, then rounded him straight up to 5TT. Still below Katakuri's AP and Dura.

No, Logias in battles are not "made fair". They have Elemental Intangibility on top of Mid tier+ Regenerationn, not just Regenerationn. Naruto isn't bypassing either of those w/ low tier dura-bypassing attacks that clearly leave opponents mostly intact anyways.

Katakuri has literally all of the abilities listed under Kenbunshoku Haki, not just some basic "emotion sensing" by itself. Katakuri's Muso Donuts are capable of attacking simultaneously. For example, Katakuri makes 20 Donuts around his opponent. He uses his real arm and throws one single punch. This punch is projected from every single one of these donuts simultaneously with no delay in between.

Naruto having more intellect due to outsmarting people more powerful than him? I'm sorry, but this doesn't make any sense. He is of lower intellect than someone like Kakashi for example. You're also suggesting Katakuri would be tricked when he is a calm-collected fighter that also has future-sight. Katakuri can also sense his presence from kilometers away. Naruto is not surprising him unless he manages to get Katakuri to snap, which is low-chance unless Katakuri tries to take a snack break in-between.
 
inb4 Katakuri says "**** it this ninja is a bother" and goes to eat something and naruto watches him.
 
CinCameron20 said:
You just said Naruto was 4.2TT, then rounded him straight up to 5TT. Still below Katakuri's AP and Dura.
No, Logias in battles are not "made fair". They have Elemental Intangibility on top of Mid tier+ Regenerationn, not just Regenerationn. Naruto isn't bypassing either of those w/ low tier dura-bypassing attacks that clearly leave opponents mostly intact anyways.

Katakuri has literally all of the abilities listed under Kenbunshoku Haki, not just some basic "emotion sensing" by itself. Katakuri's Muso Donuts are capable of attacking simultaneously. For example, Katakuri makes 20 Donuts around his opponent. He uses his real arm and throws one single punch. This punch is projected from every single one of these donuts simultaneously with no delay in between.

Naruto having more intellect due to outsmarting people more powerful than him? I'm sorry, but this doesn't make any sense. He is of lower intellect than someone like Kakashi for example. You're also suggesting Katakuri would be tricked when he is a calm-collected fighter that also has future-sight. Katakuri can also sense his presence from kilometers away. Naruto is not surprising him unless he manages to get Katakuri to snap, which is low-chance unless Katakuri tries to take a snack break in-between.
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I didn't round him up to 5. I said he was 5 because he is rated as contributing to the majority (which is at least 50%) of a 10 Teraton attack.
 
PaChi2 said:
Kepekley23 said:
He's 3.4 teratons, by the way.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Now you just appealing to authority. FACT remains that Naruto contributed to the majority (BY DEFINITION means the greater number) of a 10 Teraton attack, which would make him at least 5 Teratons. It's even listed on his page.
 
The actual fact is that I didn't accept the 10 teratons method and would appreciate if you stopped trying to bring it up.
 
That would still be 4.2TT @Rinkaku... not 5. You bumped it up. 50% IS 4.2TT.

Kepek has repeatedly rejected the calculation, so actually, Naruto is 3.4 TT. Stop stating otherwise.
 
CinCameron20 said:
You just said Naruto was 4.2TT, then rounded him straight up to 5TT. Still below Katakuri's AP and Dura.
No, Logias in battles are not "made fair". They have Elemental Intangibility on top of Mid tier+ Regenerationn, not just Regenerationn. Naruto isn't bypassing either of those w/ low tier dura-bypassing attacks that clearly leave opponents mostly intact anyways.

Katakuri has literally all of the abilities listed under Kenbunshoku Haki, not just some basic "emotion sensing" by itself. Katakuri's Muso Donuts are capable of attacking simultaneously. For example, Katakuri makes 20 Donuts around his opponent. He uses his real arm and throws one single punch. This punch is projected from every single one of these donuts simultaneously with no delay in between.

Naruto having more intellect due to outsmarting people more powerful than him? I'm sorry, but this doesn't make any sense. He is of lower intellect than someone like Kakashi for example. You're also suggesting Katakuri would be tricked when he is a calm-collected fighter that also has future-sight. Katakuri can also sense his presence from kilometers away. Naruto is not surprising him unless he manages to get Katakuri to snap, which is low-chance unless Katakuri tries to take a snack break in-between.
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Any of the Toads could just use water release and Katakuri cannot use Mochi. From there on it's a physical fight with hundreds of clones spamming Rasenshuriken. Even if he cannot physically touch him, the sheer abundance of rasenshurikens would be able to destroy his whole body which he cannot regenerate from.
 
And Naruto will know that water is bad for Katakuri because of his Nigh Omniscience or something?
 
Even so, Katakuri isn't much stronger and when Water Release and hungry toads dispatches of his Mochi, he will have to deal with a spam of hundreds of RS.
 
PaChi2 said:
And Naruto will know that water is bad for Katakuri because of his Nigh Omniscience or something?
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No. Because of the same reason Luffy did. He caould easily feel it and realise it's Mochi or one of the toads could. It's really not that hard to realise especially when you grow up in a culture where Mochi is a staple food, so he would already know just from cultural experience that Mochi doesn't go well with water.
 
RinkakuKagune said:
Even so, Katakuri isn't much stronger and when Water Release and hungry toads dispatches of his Mochi, he will have to deal with a spam of hundreds of RS.
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And obviously Katakuri wont be able to do anything even if he saw this coming thanks to his precog because its totally in character for him to do nothing and wait for his opponent to kill him.
 
Is that not basically what he did with Luffy tbh? He had good chances to finish him off, if he would have only been willing to straight up murder him. Guess how that worked out. In a new Gear 4 Mode.
 
"For the same reason Luffy did" Uhm... Luffy found out because Jinbe explained Katakuri's powers to him and obviously had prior knowledge on the fruit. So, is Jinbe gonna pop in and tell Naruto?
 
He can't if huge tidal waves of waters are coming at him. The post says speed is equalized so their attack speed would be the same as his travel, reaction and combat, so he cannot blitz it either. Precog won't help is you are completely unable to dodge it. And he can't block it either, becuase if he does it physically that's the same as letting is wash over him, and if he uses Haoshoku he'll be too preoccupied to stop the clones. And he cannot make enough donuts to stop the spam of hundreds or even thousands of Naruto clones.
 
Heilergott said:
Is that not basically what he did with Luffy tbh? He had good chances to finish him off, if he would have only been willing to straight up murder him. Guess how that worked out. In a new Gear 4 Mode.
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After hours of beating Luffy to a pulp, you mean?
 
CinCameron20 said:
"For the same reason Luffy did" Uhm... Luffy found out because Jinbe explained Katakuri's powers to him and obviously had prior knowledge on the fruit. So, is Jinbe gonna pop in and tell Naruto?
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Clearly you didn't read the rest of my post did you? He caould easily feel it and realise it's Mochi or one of the toads could. It's really not that hard to realise especially when you grow up in a culture where Mochi is a staple food, so he would already know just from cultural experience that Mochi doesn't go well with water. Word for word, what I said.
 
Yeah, just remember all the times in the Manga where Naruto made Thousands of Clones throwing Rasenshuriken at once. Or all the times there were Raining 1000s of Odama Rasengan. Oh Wait a Minute.
 
@Lorenzo - I literally am the person who MADE the calculations that resulted in 6-B One Piece, so Idk wtf you were trying to say. Gear 4th Luffy is 5.17TT via powerscaling 3x above his Base, which is 1.7TT. His King Kong Gun is unidentifiably higher than his normal attacks, which were stated by Doflamingo to be 3x stronger than before.
 
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