-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Champions of the Gods: 666:Satan vs Kratos (GRACE)
- Thread starter Planck69
- Start date
- Status
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
He literally has copied weapons? That weakness should not be there.
- 3,780
- 4,080
Power null is a good counter I agree however in character Satan opens with telepathy and mind reading + infinite clone spamming. Also Satan’s don't “see” things in the way Kratos does as his eyes only distinguish between things by power and abilities, not by actual sight. So he should be able to see it coming as well.
Yes as when he copied one of the weapon abilities from Mujin park.
Fair.
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
So does Satan? He fights people who have been fighting since the dawn of the universe itself, basically billions of years.
Eden_Warlock99
She/Her- 10,191
- 3,747
How did Kratos win lel
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
He/Him- 3,706
- 2,077
- 3,780
- 4,080
By the way just wanna note:
Satan is literally billions of years old. She was around when Mori was fighting Tathagata and has become a master of combat too across all the divine realms. Just for also putting Satan’s experiences out there.
Satan is literally billions of years old. She was around when Mori was fighting Tathagata and has become a master of combat too across all the divine realms. Just for also putting Satan’s experiences out there.
- 18,550
- 18,599
- Thread starter
- #48
Wouldn't that more or less make them even? Ares has instinctive understanding of any conflict across time and space. These guys have fought for aeons.
- 32,835
- 38,104
Kratos doesn't need to see anything either, he's got instinctive Enhanced Senses and ESP that immediately tell him off the bat what he's facing against and just how lethal it can be against him.
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
That's simply a feat of experience, which isn't all there is to skill/combat ability.
- 7,833
- 8,784
Ikki Kurogane level skill moment
- 32,835
- 38,104
Kratos is just built different.
Lugh_Tuathe_Dé
He/Him- 3,706
- 2,077
Will this become a skill vs skill now?
- 6,130
- 4,213
How about beating Primordials fighting for eternity before time was created?
- 6,130
- 4,213
- 18,550
- 18,599
- Thread starter
- #56
It's not only experiencing it but innately understanding the fighting and battles taking place.
Though honestly, this isn't coming down to a skill fight. Kratos would likely just slow down/stop time or spam hax considering his IA and senses screaming at him.
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
And Satan in turn will spawn clones out of Kratos' body (which is thought-based) that explode him to bits.
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
That's again just an experience feat. Not very impressive without greater context.
- 18,550
- 18,599
- Thread starter
- #59
He resists biological hax and transmutation.
Eden_Warlock99
She/Her- 10,191
- 3,747
What does Satan usually do in-character btw?
- 3,780
- 4,080
It’s a fight dude don’t get me wrong.
They kind got good abilities against each other like Kratos with power null and time manip and Satan with power mimicry and stupid high cloning. (He also has sealing and creation with Mt.Oheng that he can also spawn right on top of Kratos).
I don’t care who’s more skillful the fight’s not gonna come down to that. Honestly they’re “relatively” as skillful in their own respective ways.
Though I was cooking for something for Satan to do in the future that would make the arguments useless but it’s fine 
They kind got good abilities against each other like Kratos with power null and time manip and Satan with power mimicry and stupid high cloning. (He also has sealing and creation with Mt.Oheng that he can also spawn right on top of Kratos).
I don’t care who’s more skillful the fight’s not gonna come down to that. Honestly they’re “relatively” as skillful in their own respective ways.
- 7,833
- 8,784
Dude's a powerscaler.
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
Is it layered or smurfy? Cause Satan could very well bypass that resistance.
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
Satan is THE powerscaler.
- 18,550
- 18,599
- Thread starter
- #66
It's based on the Sisters of Fate and the Energy of Tartarus, the former of whom do it via 4-D hax.
- 7,833
- 8,784
Telepathy/mind reading, spawn his quintillion clones (not an exaggeration) and then use copied abilities against them (wich he also resists) while he grows stronger through AD
- 7,833
- 8,784
When will Kratos get the Chinese Dante treatment?Kratos has the pain of not being a Korean martial arts manhua or a Xianxia so his skill can only get so far.
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
Thats crazy.
- 32,835
- 38,104
Yeah we reached up until that point now. He'll get it in the upcoming CRT soon.
- 18,550
- 18,599
- Thread starter
- #71
Kratos has a massive cocktail of 4-D resistance. He also has RE for those abilities as well so that'd mitigate hax used against him pretty well.
- 3,780
- 4,080
Actually? Powenull may not work on Satan because he literally had his powers stolen through his wings and heart being absorbed and he literally just resisted that later on lol
- 32,835
- 38,104
Correction: Both are 4-D hax.
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
Inb4 the power null is 4-D.
- 18,550
- 18,599
- Thread starter
- #75
Zeus' Fury just strips you of everything rather than taking it through specific means.
- 18,550
- 18,599
- Thread starter
- #76
Kratos' 4-D stuff is mostly defensive in this key. His BFR is 2-C in range though.
- 6,130
- 4,213
So Hades hax does power stripping in wholistic ways
azontr
He/Him- 40,519
- 50,160
Mujin doesn't do it via specific means either. He just absorbed Satan's wings and took his power.
- 18,550
- 18,599
- Thread starter
- #79
Isn't that more power absorption than "skadeedle skadoodle, your godhood's now a noodle."
- 3,780
- 4,080
what do you mean specific means?
Mujin just ate Satan’s heart or “life” as it was called (since Satan has 2 ‘lives’ and can revive himself by sacrificing one of them.) which took all his power including his wings away.
- Status
