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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Im hyped to see Pochita get washed in gruesome ways just to keep getting back up again, we might also be in for a few more feats as we've yet to see the tank gauntlet in action and the Gun gauntlet is probably stronger as well.
 
I think there're a lot of things to consider about whether this speed feat is valid and what the calculations will show. The distance from Mount Elbrus to Tokyo is 4,907 miles in a straight direction. Gulf of Mexico distance is a bit trickier since it doesn't specify where along the Gulf of Mexico or what direction the Tank Devil traveled. We don't know how long it took to travel, but it probably wasn't more than a few seconds. But more importantly, do the characters scale to this? We don't know if Yoru specifically reacted to the Tank and Gun Devil traveling to her; the most you could argue is that this is her attack/summoning speed. This seems really messy. I just hope this doesn't end up with CSM top tiers becoming FTL.
 
CiscoTheSoto said:
I think there're a lot of things to consider about whether this speed feat is valid and what the calculations will show. The distance from Mount Elbrus to Tokyo is 4,907 miles in a straight direction. Gulf of Mexico distance is a bit trickier since it doesn't specify where along the Gulf of Mexico or what direction the Tank Devil traveled. We don't know how long it took to travel, but it probably wasn't more than a few seconds. But more importantly, do the characters scale to this? We don't know if Yoru specifically reacted to the Tank and Gun Devil traveling to her; the most you could argue is that this is her attack/summoning speed. This seems really messy. I just hope this doesn't end up with CSM top tiers becoming FTL.
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Yeah I don’t think many would allow it nor would we knowing the context. At most its summoning speed I’d say.
 
GunshyFever said:
Would Gauntlet Yoru have her own key?

(Also, a friend calced the explosion thingy) it's like 22 Kilotons which is consistency again.
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Nah, it's more like equipment since she can probably only summon them after her amp. If she couldn't make stuff weapons from a distance like at the start, then I doubt she could do what she just did.

If 22.5918 kilotons was from the USSR's 28% of the Gun Devil, then would 100% scale to 80.685 kilotons? (Specifically 100% Gun, after everyone's fear of the Gun Devil tanked after Denji "beat" it in Part 1)

If so, then Pre-Weakening Gun being 7-B isn't that far fetched...
 
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LIFE_OF_KING said:
Pochita blew up by a 7-C attack...
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Durability in Chainsaw Man (or for regenerators in general) is weird, Darkness got wrecked by Makima's finger blast, and Pochita was also harmed by the Centipede Devil earlier.

Also Quanxi broke her legs by falling.
 
ElajRuengies said:
Darkness got wrecked by Makima's finger blast
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We have that accepted as Bio manip. But the centipede one is acceptable because they are gross insects that everyone hates. Yoru's gauntlets are just that strong because her guilt from using her children as weapons is high
 
GunshyFever said:
We have that accepted as Bio manip. But the centipede one is acceptable because they are gross insects that everyone hates.
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Then Cockroach should've been 7-C too, and while Cockroach was tough, he wasn't Gun-Devil level. Also, how was that Bio Manip?

Chainsaw Man's regenerators are just spongey from the looks of it.
 
ElajRuengies said:
Then Cockroach should've been 7-C too, and while Cockroach was tough, he wasn't Gun-Devil level. Also, how was that Bio Manip?

Chainsaw Man's regenerators are just spongey from the looks of it.
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You can argue they only got to draw blood because they attacked his intestine appendage. Also, for the bio manip
Biological Manipulation (With a simple stare, Makima has shown to be able to cause massive amounts of bleeding from a person's eyes, nose, and mouth. While the exact method used by her isn't explicit, it's likely that she used some sort of biological attack to cause internal hemorrhaging within that man's brain with her stare.[34] Uses a similar attack against the Darkness Devil later on.[17])
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I don't necessarily think Pochita himself is spongey in durability, but piercing attacks probably are more effective against him.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Quanxi breaking her legs for a 9-C fall...
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The fall did nothing, Quanxi just broke her legs on purpose because she needed an excuse to bite Fumiko's midriff
GunshyFever said:
You can argue they only got to draw blood because they attacked his intestine appendage. Also, for the bio manip
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Makima's point looks more like the [Bang] attack to me, but fair enough. Shame a sudden explanation on Devil's abilities would've ruined the tone of the scene.
 
GunshyFever said:
Friend also calced Yoru's summoning speed, should scale to a completely new key though since current Yoru is way stronger
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Mmm, I disagree with a new key right now. As he wails on Pochita she'll probably free her comrades and get strong enough for a new key, but currently I'd just say:

9-A, Varies with weapons | 8-B, Varies with weapons, up to [Primal level] with Gauntlets
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
If even Gun Devil KE wasn't accepted I doubt that this one is gonna pass. The dust don't cause any kind of damage in the environment close to tier 6
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Dust doesn't need to cause damage its the act of launching that sheer amount of dust to begin with in a large cloud, its almost no different from a cloud calc

ElajRuengies said:
How is using explosions wrong?
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Cause its not an explosions its tearing through the mountain and pulverized the metal doors and such, not via explosion manip
 
Lord_Farquaad69420 said:
it's not even been calced lol, do we even know if it's gonna be tier 6?
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ElJoaki5 said:
What speed would you even use for that dust KE?
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I'm guessing Tier 6 was gotten by-
  • Distance Dust traveled: At least 500 meters
  • Timeframe: Going by distance from Pochita to Yoru's face and Supersonic Speed from the calc, ~0.0004 seconds
  • Speed: 1.25 million m/s
At that speed, even only 1 ton of dust would result in Large Town level KE, and that's a lot more than 1 ton even if Cloud density was for the dust cone.
 
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