Chainsaw Man discussion thread

[Lynieryz]

Hybrids are affected by fear boost.

Fami's plan revolves around boosting Pochita through fear and the current Pochita is a hybrid (there was also the whole HOH thing that also proves this).

 

[ElajRuengies]

Hybrids are affected by fear boost.

Fami's plan revolves around boosting Pochita through fear and the current Pochita is a hybrid (there was also the whole HOH thing that also proves this).

Pochita's a Devil, Denji's the Hybrid. Also what's HOH?

 

[Lynieryz]

Pochita's a Devil, Denji's the Hybrid

*Pochita was a Devil, currently he manifests himself through Denji's body which is a hybrid.

Also what's HOH?

Hero of hell.

 

[Epiccheev]

She wants to create Pochita Requiem act 4

 

[Zabazab]

*Pochita was a Devil, currently he manifests himself through Denji's body which is a hybrid.

When Pochita (Black Chainsaw Man) manifests, it's because Denji and Pochita's contract is broken, and the state of being a hybrid is caused by said contract.


Also the fear scaling for Hybrids is at least quite strange because Pochita and Denji have an equal volume of fear directed towards them, and yet Denji is fodder compared to Pochita. Surely it can't just be due to a limit of the human body since base Quanxi is physically stronger than every Hybrid.

 

[ElajRuengies]

When Pochita (Black Chainsaw Man) manifests, it's because Denji and Pochita's contract is broken, and the state of being a hybrid is caused by said contract.

Explained it better than I could.

Also the fear scaling for Hybrids is at least quite strange because Pochita and Denji have an equal volume of fear directed towards them, and yet Denji is fodder compared to Pochita. Surely it can't just be due to a limit of the human body since base Quanxi is physically stronger than every Hybrid.

Quanxi's just built different, like Kishibe+++. Yoshida straight up calls her strength inhuman.

Anywho, despite the fact that Makima thought she was facing Hybrid Denji, when Barem notes that he's a lot weaker, Makima brings up how no one fears him, implying fear scaling does apply to Hybrids.

This also makes Makima's delulu even funnier, because she'd rather believe that a Weakened Hybrid Denji could get Double K.O. with freaking Quanxi, than accept that she was actually facing Pochita, who does talk and spit phlegm, and doesn't follow her headcanons about him.

Meanwhile Barem's so blindly loyal that he just went along with it. Honestly shame on Quanxi for not pointing out the issue.

Quanxi: "Hold on hold on hold on, you just said that Chainsaw Man's weaker since nobody fears him."

Makima: "Correct."

Quanxi: "And right now we're facing Denji, not the real Chainsaw Man."

Makima: "Evidently, considering that he doesn't have four arms."

Quanxi: "So then Denji is weaker than before."

Makima: "That's how the transitive property works, yes."

Quanxi: "Then how the f*ck did he beat Reze in one hit? One of those premises has to be wrong."

Makima: "........."

 

[Zabazab]

Snip.

Conquered Quanxi OOC. She'd say "..." while putting her hand over Makima's womb.

 

[ElajRuengies]

Conquered Quanxi OOC. She'd say "..." while putting her hand over Makima's womb.

...Somehow I forgot that Quanxi was mind controlled. Not that Quanxi has much dialogue normally either. Funny how Barem was really the only person who actually spoke words besides Makima during the Pochita fights.

 

[Zabazab]

Funny how Barem was really the only person who actually spoke words besides Makima during the Pochita fights

Hey! "Wha‐!" counts!!

 

[GunshyFever]

Surely it can't just be due to a limit of the human body since base Quanxi is physically stronger than every Hybrid.

It is, yes. Hence why Denji's non-human limbs are more durable than his human limbs. Quanxi being physically stronger than most hybrids is just a testament to her own strength along with the fact she is stronger as a hybrid as well.

Edit: I did not see that Elaj already went through this. Ignore this

 

[Famikiga]

Hybrids are affected by fear boost.

Fami's plan revolves around boosting Pochita through fear and the current Pochita is a hybrid (there was also the whole HOH thing that also proves this).

Hybrids shouldn't be affected by fear boost. The concept of hybrids were erased from existence by pochita so the devil half that would get the fear boost no longer exists. Am I on something or onto something?

 

[ElajRuengies]

Hybrids shouldn't be affected by fear boost. The concept of hybrids were erased from existence by pochita so the devil half that would get the fear boost no longer exists. Am I on something or onto something?

The Hybrids are special because they're the only thing Pochita's eaten the concept of that still exists despite that.

Also as mentioned above, Makima literally stated that Fear Scaling applied while thinking she was facing Hybrid Denji.

 

[Lynieryz]

When Pochita (Black Chainsaw Man) manifests, it's because Denji and Pochita's contract is broken, and the state of being a hybrid is caused by said contract.

A Devil cannot make a contract with Devils and Fiends.

If the Pochita who takes control over Denji was a full Devil, Denji's contract with Power would have been broken, but that didn't happen.

Also the fear scaling for Hybrids is at least quite strange because Pochita and Denji have an equal volume of fear directed towards them, and yet Denji is fodder compared to Pochita. Surely it can't just be due to a limit of the human body since base Quanxi is physically stronger than every Hybrid.

They are not feared equally, just look at Denji's interaction with the Devils and you will see that Denji is not equally feared among the Devils as Pochita.

Quanxi is the greatest Devil hunter that ever existed, her strength comes precisely from being feared by Devils, but not on the same scale as Pochita.

 

[FuriousFieryFist]

Anywho, despite the fact that Makima thought she was facing Hybrid Denji, when Barem notes that he's a lot weaker, Makima brings up how no one fears him, implying fear scaling does apply to Hybrids.

This also makes Makima's delulu even funnier, because she'd rather believe that a Weakened Hybrid Denji could get Double K.O. with freaking Quanxi, than accept that she was actually facing Pochita, who does talk and spit phlegm, and doesn't follow her headcanons about him.

Yeah I actually remembered this mid-reply yesterday. Kinda puts a nail in the coffin on the whole hybrids aren't affected by fear scaling sentiment.