CC Goku vs Sora

[Fezzih_007]

Sora is 5D now(lol), so i gonna trow him against a expy of his.

Speed equal
Kh 3 Sora is being used
Goku Super Saiyan Blue: Universe Tree Power is being used
They fight on Hell
Start distance is 2km away


Votes:
Stock shonen Hero:

Young Dad:

 

[Undylan]

Jeez already?

Uhhhhhh can Sora do anything about this Goku's passives?

 

[Hasty12345]

Leaning towards Goku based on the pages

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Y'all gotta stop pitting Low 1-C characters against the Goku who can passively delete things with layered CM type 1 Info type 2 history level EE god damn

 

[TheGodOfICE777]

U.T Goku has an overwhelming passive aura with Time Power and G.o.D aura that surpasses even the U.T + G.o.D’s also Goku’s aura can erase information type 2, conceptual type 1, history, and nep type 1.

This seems like a stomp but I’ll see what the arguments for Sora are.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

U.T Goku has an overwhelming passive aura with Time Power and G.o.D aura that surpasses even the U.T + G.o.D’s that can erase information type 2, conceptual type 1, history, and nep type 1.

This seems like a stomp but I’ll see what the arguments for Sora are.

I read Sora's profile thrice over and while that may not always be enough I'm fairly certain he has no way around getting passively deleted

 

[TiltedFN]

Doesn't goku have layered passive powernull, stamina hax and conceptual manipulation?

 

[LordGinSama]

Where does Goku have CM in his profile?

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Where does Goku have CM in his profile?

It's linked under his Universe Tree tabber

It comes from Time Power

 

[Killerdrone123]

Yup this looks like a stomp

 

[Bobsican]

I did not have to see Sora the Hedgehog.

Anyways, how many hax layers Goku has? Sora has resistances to type 1 conceptual, type 2 informational, historical so on EE of at least 27 layers (and High-Godly type 8 immortality on top of that), and his own hax is as layered too.

 

[TheGreatBanana]

What can Sora do against Goku's passive Aura? Can sora act while getting passively damaged?

 

[Bobsican]

What can Sora do against Goku's passive Aura? Can sora act while getting passively damaged?

Yes

 

[Ss3micah]

Sigh
Why not
Hey Bob
What’s the strat for Sora here?
And how specifically does his heavy hitting Hax like Info and Concept Hax work?

 

[Everything12]

So how does Sora and Goku's layers work as their has been a change to how layers works. Which means feats of actual resistances being broken, or resisting layered hax, is required for them now.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hax

Layering is the ability to break through resistances to one's ability/hax. Successfully using an ability against a resistant character means that the ability is "layered." Further, resisting a layered ability is an indication of layered resistance, so on and so forth. An ability becoming stronger does not automatically mean it is layered unless it is shown to overcome a resistance. Crucially this is not the same as resistance negation, against which layering is irrelevant.

Moreover, layering should not be thought of as applying to abilities which intuitively can be overcome with magnitude, such as heat resistance or analytical prediction. For instance, it is not layered fire manipulation to burn someone with a heat source hotter than they can withstand.

 

[Padaruyos]

Even without the hax can't Goku just one shot here since I assume he has a massive AP advantage?

 

[TheGreatBanana]

The video is a bit confusing ngl, But i assume that's sora attacking while being enveloped in fire...?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Iirc vieth in goku vs kratos said that ut goku can increase his layers using universal tree since goku and fu where constantly resisting each other haxs

 

[Fezzih_007]

I did not have to see Sora the Hedgehog.

But the drawing is cute.
（ • w •)

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Anyways, how many hax layers Goku has? Sora has resistances to type 1 conceptual, type 2 informational, historical so on EE of at least 27 layers (and High-Godly type 8 immortality on top of that), and his own hax is as layered too.

Would be real nice if the profile actually said this or if someone else corroborated this claim

I'm having a hard time believing this because by comparison the mentioned wincons for Goku are linked on his profile

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Would be real nice if the profile actually said this

I'm having a hard time believing this because by comparison the mentioned wincons for Goku are linked on his profile

It does, it's under resisting KH Darkness. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Heart_(Kingdom_Hearts)

 

[Fezzih_007]

Would be real nice if the profile actually said this

I'm having a hard time believing this because by comparison the mentioned wincons for Goku are linked on his profile

It does trought.
He resist Kh darkness Manipulation which links directly to https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Heart_(Kingdom_Hearts)

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Yall better start justifying those layers with actual feats now that we have standards on this shit lol

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I did not see that. Where the hell does 27 layers come from?

 

[Vietthai96]

I'm not gonna join this layers debating shit

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I'm not gonna join this layers debating shit

I second this sentiment

 

[Padaruyos]

Even without the passives can Sora survive just getting absolutely obliterated via raw AP?

Unless I'm missing something Goku scales to infinite Low 1-C structures and Sora is just one. So it's like the difference between a Low 2-C and a 2-A.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

I did not see that. Where the hell does 27 layers come from?

Here.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Even without the passives can Sora survive just getting absolutely obliterated via raw AP?

Unless I'm missing something Goku scales to infinite Low 1-C structures and Sora is just one. So it's like the difference between a Low 2-C and a 2-A.

^

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Oh damn we automatically assuming people have been faking or frauding hax layers now? M

 

[Fezzih_007]

Yall better start justifying those layers with actual feats now that we have standards on this shit lol

Why?
Well, the special powers for Time Power and Special Ki manipulation does show example of characters resisting stuff.
The numbers of layers is actually very big.

 

[Bobsican]

Sigh
Why not
Hey Bob
What’s the strat for Sora here?

Simplest way to describe Sora's strategy is just mentioning a Red Mage from Final Fantasy, he's a jack of all trades that shifts between swordfighting and magical stuff.

And how specifically does his heavy hitting Hax like Info and Concept Hax work?

By inflicting significant damage on the opponent, do note that if the EE fails the opponent is automatically BFR'd to a 11-C ("minus" 1-A scale from 3D) space instead.

The video is a bit confusing ngl, But i assume that's sora attacking while being enveloped in fire...?

Indeed.

So how does Sora and Goku's layers work as their has been a change to how layers works. Which means feats of actual resistances being broken, or resisting layered hax, is required for them now.

Thankfully that's rather direct here (note that while it was proposed as ResNeg layers, it was accepted as just normal layers intead), it doesn't just make up numbers from random scaling, but rather a number having inherent priority higher than a lower one for the purposes of a given ability.

Even without the hax can't Goku just one shot here since I assume he has a massive AP advantage?

I think DBH characters scale to infinite Low 1-C (5-D) structures? If so, yeah, but again, that's not bypassing the High-Godly.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Why?
Well, the special powers for Time Power and Special Ki manipulation does show example of characters resisting stuff.
The numbers of layers is actually very big.

Yeah but looking into that before taking a pot shot would require good faith

 

[Quantu]

Do we just assume their status effects/video game shenanigans cancel each other out then

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Time Power is the only real factor in Goku's wincons

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Simplest way to describe Sora's strategy is just mentioning a Red Mage from Final Fantasy, he's a jack of all trades that shifts between swordfighting and magical stuff.


By inflicting significant damage on the opponent, do note that if the EE fails the opponent is automatically BFR'd to a 11-C ("minus" 1-A scale from 3D) space instead.


Indeed.


Thankfully that's rather direct here (note that while it was proposed as ResNeg layers, it was accepted as just normal layers intead), it doesn't just make up numbers from random scaling, but rather a number having inherent priority higher than a lower one for the purposes of a given ability.


I think DBH characters scale to infinite Low 1-C (5-D) structures? If so, yeah, but again, that's not bypassing the High-Godly.

Sora won't be able to do anything if he is getting passively AP stomped.

 

[Bobsican]

Is the passive damage done by AP? In any case, more details please.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Goku's aura that passively destroys is Low 1-C in range so I'm pretty sure Sora just keeps getting shitcanned every time he comes back

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Oh damn we automatically assuming people have been faking or frauding hax layers now? M

No, just that you need to back up your claims. Which you should've been doing from the very start.

Why?
Well, the special powers for Time Power and Special Ki manipulation does show example of characters resisting stuff.
The numbers of layers is actually very big.

"why do i need to give evidence of goku having a morbillion hax layers" I'm sure you can think of a reason, given enough time. Don't make such high end claims if you can't substantiate them.

Yeah but looking into that before taking a pot shot would require good faith

am i the designated DBH Hater now that im done hating on DMC

 

[Vietthai96]

Time Power can neg HGR, but if i'm seeing another layers shit then good bye

Currently there are peoples who making layers blog for DBH