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This has always made me curious, do giorno's return to zero and death loops work on Yhwach? Cause in Yhwach Profile has resistance to causality
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can you explain it explicitly, why its ability is 4D?Giorno's Causality manip is 4D unless Yhwach has resistance on the same level to it, then it might work.
It worked in erased time and reverted it and also the death loop which seemingly works via creating parallel worldscan you explain it explicitly, why its ability is 4D?
That would just be rangeRTZ work on a universal scale.
^He gets soul crushed though.
Only Immeasurable Speed canGER should be able to counter SC due to Infinity Speed.
GER is only infinite with RTZ, it's ordinarily MFTL.GER should be able to counter SC due to Infinity Speed.
RTZ covers that. GER's movement speed is MFTL but RTZ that reverts ill effects on Giorno is indeed Infinity Speed, it's written in the profile.GER is only infinite with RTZ, it's ordinarily MFTL.
And?RTZ covers that. GER's movement speed is MFTL but RTZ that reverts ill effects on Giorno is indeed Infinity Speed, it's written in the profile.
But it isn't passive, GER itself still has to actually use RTZ and GER is only MFTL.RTZ covers that. GER's movement speed is MFTL but RTZ that reverts ill effects on Giorno is indeed Infinity Speed, it's written in the profile.
That's the thing, GER has "Infinite for its Return to Zero".But it isn't passive, GER itself still has to actually use RTZ and GER is only MFTL.
From my understanding, this looks like a passive infinity speed skill.Return to Zero: GER can take the entirety of something and revert it to a previous state. This includes any action the target takes and leaves GER unaffected by it (i.e., Giorno would be affected by time stop, but GER would not).
By VSB standards affecting time is 4-D, Giorno affected time with RTZ so it's indeed 4-D.Giorno's causality manipulation would work on Yhwach if it's actually 4-D.
Actually, it is, it's semi-automatic, it can be used manually, but can activate automatically if GER or Gio themselves aren't able to.But it isn't passive, GER itself still has to actually use RTZ and GER is only MFTL.
Still not passive from itself, it's not activated from GER merely existingActually, it is, it's semi-automatic, it can be used manually, but can activate automatically if GER or Gio themselves aren't able to.
No, but it's passive in the sense if he gets effected by something or something is about to bring harm to him, it'll take action to revert it even if he can't. Semi-automatic, exactly what I said, it may as well be passive for all intents and purposes, it's an ability that doesn't require any conscious thought even if it can be used willingly.Still not passive from itself, it's not activated from GER merely existing
Speed equalization doesn't effect certain abilities acquired or performed through speed. RTZ's speed will still be infinite.
And in an actual battle here, speed would obviously be equalized making this argument sort of irrelevant.
Cant exactly do anything if as soon as the fight start he does and then revives and dies again, it would still be a loss for himNo, but it's passive in the sense if he gets effected by something or something is about to bring harm to him, it'll take action to revert it even if he can't. Semi-automatic, exactly what I said, it may as well be passive for all intents and purposes, it's an ability that doesn't require any conscious thought even if it can be used willingly.
Doesn't change the fact rtz is pretty much passive and chariot wasn't arguing for Giorno vs yhawach anywayCant exactly do anything if as soon as the fight start he does and then revives and dies again, it would still be a loss for him
Not really, passive means that is active since the start, rtz needs activation even if automatic activation. It ain't really passiveDoesn't change the fact rtz is pretty much passive
It's technically active from the start just the effects only happen when Giorno is either attacked or harmed and passive doesn't mean it needs to be active from the start it just means it's an automatic ability that doesn't require to be actively usedNot really, passive means that is active since the start, rtz needs activation even if automatic activation. It ain't really passive
Not really how RTZ works, nor would it happen again after the first time due to the mechanics of the ability unless the character in question has a way to circumvent that. But I'm not about to ******* argue Gio vs Ywach nor do I care, more concerned with the spread of misinformation on how it works then anything.Cant exactly do anything if as soon as the fight start he does and then revives and dies again, it would still be a loss for him
It doesn't. The ability is technically always up, it just takes effect when Gio or GER would be harmed in order to prevent said harm. It's by literal definition passive and acts to prevent any hinderance to them.It ain't really passive
Proof for Orihime causality manip is 4D ability?Orhimes causality manipulation rejects events in space-time which is 4D hax
So no i don't see it working