Castlevania Speed, again

[Lightning_XXI]

Yeah, i'm back

Some people who know me and talk with me on Discord already know that I'm very sceptical about Castlevania's Speed rating, currently at FTL, based on Paranoia. The main problem is the fact that they got this rating by being above said demon. Now, I know, we have speedsters in many verses that may be weaker than other tiers, but they can rival or surpass them in speed, however this isn't the case of Paranoia, and even if it was, Castlevania's makes clear that Dracula is above every demon in every area of power, so they scalling above Paranoia isn't the real problem here, but being FTL by that, yeap, that gives me pain

First, because Paranoia isn't FTL or even Lightspeed, in fact, he actually only fires a Beam of Light, which it's not tangible, goes in straight line, reflect in mirrors and blah blah blah real light, but he doesn't even attack physically at that speed, its similar to Madara Uchiha, from Naruto, a character who has Massively Hypersonic+ speed by himself, however is capable of attacking with Lightspeed attacks. As you guys can see in his fight against Soma, Paranoia doesn't even attack physically, and therefore, we can't scale his own speed to the speed of his beams, so scalling above him doesn't make the entire cast FTL

So my proposal is to remove their FTL rating and add the actual calc used for them, which is this one, which ended with 0.43c as result, that's Relativistic, which is about half of their actual speed rating here, it isn't even a big change, but still

Now, as Matt added in his awesome Respect Blog about Castlevania, we have many wepons and spells that use light as their source of attack, from Soma, from Shanoa, from Charlotte, but they aren't enough proof to say that they are FTL, not without a calc at least, which we can try to see if better results can be founded, but regardless, this should give to those three Speed of Light Attack Speed with certain spells and weapons

List of Light Spells:

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Legion_Laser

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Piercing_Beam

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Spirit_of_Light

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Vol_Luminatio

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Gergoth_Laser

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Plasma_Blast

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Ripple_Laser

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Homing

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Thunder_Elemental

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Unicorn_Card

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Rasetz

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Luminatio

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Dominus_Hatred


And that' it

Conclusion: At least Relativistic for the cast and Speed of Light attack speed for Soma, Charlotte and Shanoa

 

[ShivaShakti]

Ye

 

[Bobsican]

I totally agree with this.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Seems fine from a glance.

 

[DarkGrath]

Like DDM said, from a glance it does seem pretty solid.

 

[AshenCrow777]

Yeah I agree with both DDM and Dark from a glance they all seem good, but i would like knowledgeable members and people who did the first FTL calc to be here too see things more in depth.

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

I agree. Relativistic sounds more reasonable. Soma can dodge the light beam as it is incoming, not outrun it.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I do agree that Matt's input would be good since he's the Castlevania expert.

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Yeah, I agree

 

[Theglassman12]

seems fine to me.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Thanks for the replies

Let's wait for Matt then

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

My thing is that I'm pretty sure that Soma dodging and reacting to Paranoia should scale to Dracula. Which I hope isn't controversial.

But yeah downgrade to Relativistic is fine.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I agree that it should scale, well, it's a very casual feat

Also, Julius, Alucard and Yoko can keep up with Soma in the bad ending

Alucard scale to Dracula and Richter and etc

Thanks for the input

 

[ShivaShakti]

I suppose this can be carried out?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Yeah, many staff members approved

 

[Bobsican]

My thing is that I'm pretty sure that Soma dodging and reacting to Paranoia should scale to Dracula. Which I hope isn't controversial.
But yeah downgrade to Relativistic is fine.

By that logic FTL normal Pokémon would be a thing by now, beyond speed amps, that is

Anyways, this affects practically all the main cast, right? If so, unlocking all the pages for a while is needed so the changes can be applied.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Since Matt's alright with it, it can be applied. What profiles need to be unlocked?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Basically everyone who's FTL, the whole cast

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I can get to unlocking them after taking care of some things. I'll post again here when that's taken care of.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Okay, I'll make the changes when they get opened

Thanks o/

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Alright, I unlocked everything that really needed to be; Keeping Chaos locked though because he's Omnipresent

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Thanks, I'll start now

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Aeon, Saint Germain and Time Reaper still closed

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Oops, took care of it.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Aaand done

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Thanks, I can start relocking all the ones that were now.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Thanks for the help, Dark

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

NP, thank you for helping out with the edits, shall I close up the thread too?

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Yeap, this can be closed

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Will do then