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Blue Archive Discussion Thread

Speaking about this for a second, I... don't actually think any student can scale to the 6-A/High 6-A stuff. The Perorodzilla Chroma that the students fought wasn't empowered by a FS that had the combined power of all six nor there is any canon pre-set team of students that fought the thing like the previous boss battles.
I think you're talking about the 2nd form Perorodzilla Chroma but that one is high 6A not plain 6A which the preset teams fought. There's also Shiroko Terror and recently Hoshino Terror but I'll save that for later.
 
I think you're talking about the 2nd form Perorodzilla Chroma but that one is high 6A not plain 6A which the preset teams fought. There's also Shiroko Terror and recently Hoshino Terror but I'll save that for later.
Maybe...? I have to check my notes again.

Anyways...

 
Maybe...? I have to check my notes again.

Anyways...

Fyi, you don't need to indicate Blue Archive in parentheses. Nobody else on the site has "Saori" in their name.
 
Fyi, you don't need to indicate Blue Archive in parentheses. Nobody else on the site has "Saori" in their name.
Ye, I got it changed right away.

 
The latest update for Global, holy sh**….
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Huh. Ig, I am cleared to make Hina and Hoshino profiles now, eh?

Also. Wakamo. Done.

 
Huh. Ig, I am cleared to make Hina and Hoshino profiles now, eh?

Also. Wakamo. Done.

Yes.

Also, please add attack/techniques for Alice page if you can.
 
Ahhh, I think I found out the wall that's been bugging me from updating the tiers. The Saint Barbara 10x scaling.
 
Fyi, idk if it was mentioned before here but there was a feat where Ogata Kanna scaled a skyscraper without any visible assistance. It was during Volume 4 Chapter 1.
 
 
How fast is lightning, btw?
 

Any ideas on abilities we can add to Sensei's page?
iirc didn't Plana figure out Underground Dweller's name, motivation, affiliation, and abilities and that they are from outside of Kivotos from just analysis? and Arona could sense Chroma when Shiroko was calling upon it due to Hoshino Terror, which Plana then used the partially-manifested Chroma energy to teleport Shiroko Terror in

also something relating to Plana, having adapted to the Throne of Naram Sin she can interact with spaces with NEP type 2,3 allowing her to find the Underground Dweller
(though i guess all of those would just be more Shittim Chest stuff)
also:
Lore-wise, however, it is implied that Schale Sensei actually fight by themselves then summoning students when using his credit card.
could you tell me where this is implied? i don't remember it anywhere, only thing to me that hints to such a thing would be being able to pick any student lineup
though if it is implied that would count as possibly summoning
 
Would someone be willing to summarize everything here? Like what are you guys planning to do, the projects, et cetera. I don't follow the verse but it's interesting for me since the last time I checked about this verse they don't reach the likes of continent level or relativistic speed.. Good job though
 
iirc didn't Plana figure out Underground Dweller's name, motivation, affiliation, and abilities and that they are from outside of Kivotos from just analysis? and Arona could sense Chroma when Shiroko was calling upon it due to Hoshino Terror, which Plana then used the partially-manifested Chroma energy to teleport Shiroko Terror in

also something relating to Plana, having adapted to the Throne of Naram Sin she can interact with spaces with NEP type 2,3 allowing her to find the Underground Dweller
(though i guess all of those would just be more Shittim Chest stuff)
Nice.
also:

could you tell me where this is implied? i don't remember it anywhere, only thing to me that hints to such a thing would be being able to pick any student lineup
though if it is implied that would count as possibly summoning
Two reasons, basically.

One. Of the three times SS actually used their card in Canon, it is impossible for any students to have come. Against the incomplete Hieronoymus, against the saintress barabara or even against those mooks in VFC2, you get the idea. We also know that pre-set teams are typically Canon as BA devs uses them as in-game cutscenes, ex, when Yukari fought Kikyou, lost in the in-game battle and the cutscene following showing that she had indeed lost.

Two. Phrenapates. He had some stuff, they are exactly the same as SS, barring the fact they are essentially a corpse, so it stands to reason that what phrenapates showed off is something SS could possibly do.
Would someone be willing to summarize everything here? Like what are you guys planning to do, the projects, et cetera. I don't follow the verse but it's interesting for me since the last time I checked about this verse they don't reach the likes of continent level or relativistic speed.. Good job though
Tbf, I've already made a CRT meant to remove the relativistic speed and I am maybe planning to make another CRT meant to downgrade peps from 6-A in the near future, so ye.
 
Would someone be willing to summarize everything here? Like what are you guys planning to do, the projects, et cetera. I don't follow the verse but it's interesting for me since the last time I checked about this verse they don't reach the likes of continent level or relativistic speed.. Good job though

Nice.

Two reasons, basically.

One. Of the three times SS actually used their card in Canon, it is impossible for any students to have come. Against the incomplete Hieronoymus, against the saintress barabara or even against those mooks in VFC2, you get the idea. We also know that pre-set teams are typically Canon as BA devs uses them as in-game cutscenes, ex, when Yukari fought Kikyou, lost in the in-game battle and the cutscene following showing that she had indeed lost.

Two. Phrenapates. He had some stuff, they are exactly the same as SS, barring the fact they are essentially a corpse, so it stands to reason that what phrenapates showed off is something SS could possibly do.

Tbf, I've already made a CRT meant to remove the relativistic speed and I am maybe planning to make another CRT meant to downgrade peps from 6-A in the near future, so
I responded in that other thread just now. Idk why I didn't get a direct response after my initial reply to that announcement made here. But sure I'll try to contribute something for rebuttal, maybe. Cause unless if the Sanctum calcs are wrong, 6A scaling is definitely staying put.
 
One. Of the three times SS actually used their card in Canon, it is impossible for any students to have come. Against the incomplete Hieronoymus, against the saintress barabara or even against those mooks in VFC2, you get the idea. We also know that pre-set teams are typically Canon as BA devs uses them as in-game cutscenes, ex, when Yukari fought Kikyou, lost in the in-game battle and the cutscene following showing that she had indeed lost.

Two. Phrenapates. He had some stuff, they are exactly the same as SS, barring the fact they are essentially a corpse, so it stands to reason that what phrenapates showed off is something SS could possibly do.
ah, gotcha gotcha

Any ideas on abilities we can add to Sensei's page?
i just remembered this one, but Sensei in-verse plot armor
additionally, links for what i mentioned along with some new things in chronological order:
Plana information analysis and interacting with NEP 2,3 spaces
Arona extrasensory perception and Plana being able to detect life-signs
Sensei can also interact with NEP 2,3 spaces
Plana interacting with the partially-manifested Chroma energy
Tbf, I've already made a CRT meant to remove the relativistic speed and I am maybe planning to make another CRT meant to downgrade peps from 6-A in the near future, so ye.
didn't 6-A Aris came from the Ark of Atrahasis creating the False Sanctum towers, but why would that scale to Aris's normal AP and not only SoL: ASN since that is Aris doing the same thing as the Ark does?
oh and also would SoL: ASN count as optional equipment for Aris?
(SoL: ASN = Sword of Light: Atrahasis Supernova)
 
Thx, Discharge.
didn't 6-A Aris came from the Ark of Atrahasis creating the False Sanctum towers, but why would that scale to Aris's normal AP and not only SoL: ASN since that is Aris doing the same thing as the Ark does?
oh and also would SoL: ASN count as optional equipment for Aris?
(SoL: ASN = Sword of Light: Atrahasis Supernova)
I responded in that other thread just now. Idk why I didn't get a direct response after my initial reply to that announcement made here. But sure I'll try to contribute something for rebuttal, maybe. Cause unless if the Sanctum calcs are wrong, 6A scaling is definitely staying put.
Laser aren't SoL or Relativistic unless they are directly stated to be as per the rules regarding this sort of thing, Drago. Plus, I am basically avoiding V1C3 stuff as I am trying to finish my backlog of other events and chapters to gather abilities and feats for everyone. So no MHS+ for now.

6-A comes from the empowered Perorodzilla Chroma, who was empowered by the False Santum Towers, that fought the Kaiten FX MK. ∞, who was also empowered by a tower. The calc itself isn't wrong either. The main issue is simply put... Nobody but the Kaiten FX MK. ∞ fought the empowered Perorodzilla Chroma; the fight itself is just an in-game cutscene that plays itself regardless of the students on the field.

On the other hand, we have a few statements that put Perorodzilla Chroma above the other Chromas like Binah. We also have other Chromas that the students fought in VFC2. We have Eimi that has canonically fought Normal!Binah in an event. So I can directly scale the students to Binah's 7-B calc, which is supported by Toki's beam in V2C2 that's 7-C. No dice for 6-A stuff, tho.
 
Thx, Discharge.
ah you remind me i should definitely get my username changed to my newly changed fandom one..... except anxiety so thats fun
Laser aren't SoL or Relativistic unless they are directly stated to be as per the rules regarding this sort of thing, Drago. Plus, I am basically avoiding V1C3 stuff as I am trying to finish my backlog of other events and chapters to gather abilities and feats for everyone. So no MHS+ for now.

6-A comes from the empowered Perorodzilla Chroma, who was empowered by the False Santum Towers, that fought the Kaiten FX MK. ∞, who was also empowered by a tower. The calc itself isn't wrong either. The main issue is simply put... Nobody but the Kaiten FX MK. ∞ fought the empowered Perorodzilla Chroma; the fight itself is just an in-game cutscene that plays itself regardless of the students on the field.

On the other hand, we have a few statements that put Perorodzilla Chroma above the other Chromas like Binah. We also have other Chromas that the students fought in VFC2. We have Eimi that has canonically fought Normal!Binah in an event. So I can directly scale the students to Binah's 7-B calc, which is supported by Toki's beam in V2C2 that's 7-C. No dice for 6-A stuff, tho.
got it, thanks
 
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Thx, Discharge.


Laser aren't SoL or Relativistic unless they are directly stated to be as per the rules regarding this sort of thing, Drago. Plus, I am basically avoiding V1C3 stuff as I am trying to finish my backlog of other events and chapters to gather abilities and feats for everyone. So no MHS+ for now.

6-A comes from the empowered Perorodzilla Chroma, who was empowered by the False Santum Towers, that fought the Kaiten FX MK. ∞, who was also empowered by a tower. The calc itself isn't wrong either. The main issue is simply put... Nobody but the Kaiten FX MK. ∞ fought the empowered Perorodzilla Chroma; the fight itself is just an in-game cutscene that plays itself regardless of the students on the field.

On the other hand, we have a few statements that put Perorodzilla Chroma above the other Chromas like Binah. We also have other Chromas that the students fought in VFC2. We have Eimi that has canonically fought Normal!Binah in an event. So I can directly scale the students to Binah's 7-B calc, which is supported by Toki's beam in V2C2 that's 7-C. No dice for 6-A stuff, tho.
Again, you're talking the 2nd Perorodzilla, not the first version that was fought by the preset team of Gourmet and Make Up Work Club. That Perorodzilla was 6A due to being 1/6th of the total high 6A count. did you really read through all your blogs, cause i sure as hell read them multiple times. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:FantaRin_The_First/Blue_Archive_Feats_Part_12

Now the Saint Barbara one....that's dicey as hell and feels a bit inconsistent considering Saori and co beat a 2nd version, not the 1sy version that was specifically mentioned as 10x stronger.

V1C3 is already out in global anyways, so no big deal imho.
 
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And that's the main issue. We know Perorodzilla was empowered by a sanctum that had the combined power of all six. We know Himari's secret weapon was some type of reality warping tech that could enlarge smth that could take on Perorodzilla but it only used one sanctum. Ergo, we can't assume Base!Peroro's Base stats are 1/6th of it's amp self stats.
You really did overlook the chapter right before the one link to: The Sixth Sanctum, which featured the first version of Perorozilla. The one that Azusa and co. fought and defeated, as indicated as "neutralized". Then the Final Sanctum decided to suck all the remaining energy from the others to revive it and pump it to more monstrous size and strength, and that one is the one that Dynamax Kaiten fought.
 
You know my stance on this and I won't change it, so agree to disagree. Anyways... I need to find footage for the Frozen Sea event that isn't from a streamer. Might find smth decent like a resistance or more scaling for Eimi and Toki.
 
I failed to understand here. This is not just a handwave case of “agree to disagree”. It’s a pretty clear piece of proof. It would also not make sense to have the Sanctum guardians to be just 7C-7A when they’re clearly contributing to 1/6 of the total High 6A count, unless we are talking about just the energy output being 6A-high 6A and not the bosses themselves. Or was my constant rereading of your blog post and the chapters themselves useless in the end? It was exactly because of those calcs that it was possible to begin with.
Anyways, 6A should stay put, if anything, whether or not you personally are against it. Especially when considering Accelerated Development covers for the canon students to fight at least somewhat on the same level, anyways, if the case for Summoning does turn out to apply for Sensei’s adult/credit card. Also, if that text regarding Hoshino Terror is legit, then it’s most definitely staying.
 
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Alright, considering Hina and Hoshino profiles are likely next on the queue, Mika and Neru are following. May also need to put Sunaookami Shiroko / Shiroko Terror into consideration.
 
Alright, considering Hina and Hoshino profiles are likely next on the queue, Mika and Neru are following. May also need to put Sunaookami Shiroko / Shiroko Terror into consideration.

Neru is next actually. She's about 80% done. I'mma just about to rewatch V2C2 to add a few things from there, add her skills to her notable techniques section and then add a few pics for her gallery and i'mma going to post her profile. And then I'll upload the verse page for Blue Archive.
 

Done.
 
Hope it's not too late here, but I'd like to request profiles for Iori and Tsurugi as well.
Got it. It's just the afternoon for me. Just waiting for my kids to come back home. Also...


Here we go.
 
Got it. It's just the afternoon for me. Just waiting for my kids to come back home. Also...


Here we go.
Okay so if I can get this correct, those who actively fought against the FS guardians, plus any other who's clashed on par or are superior to some degree to the aforementioned....are 6A. Everyone else will be 6-B or High 6-B by default. There's a notable thing to take away and is amusingly bugging me a while: Hifumi both in-game and in-story is among the weakest and most unremarkable in battle parameters, but she DID partake in the Perorodzilla raid. In all honesty, I feel like the former intel holds up more and she'd be on the weaker tier end, I guess.
 
Okay so if I can get this correct, those who actively fought against the FS guardians, plus any other who's clashed on par or are superior to some degree to the aforementioned....are 6A. Everyone else will be 6-B or High 6-B by default. There's a notable thing to take away and is amusingly bugging me a while: Hifumi both in-game and in-story is among the weakest and most unremarkable in battle parameters, but she DID partake in the Perorodzilla raid. In all honesty, I feel like the former intel holds up more and she'd be on the weaker tier end, I guess.
Pretty much, ye. Next profile up is Hina (And Hoshino, as her scaling mainly comes from her, and her Allter/Terror will likely be High 6-A), since I have finally caught up to V1C3! Then, Shiroko, since her scaling comes from Wakamo and Hoshino... or maybe Shiroko Alter since she (probs) killed Hoshino Alter in her time? Idk, haven't planned that far ahead yet, lel.

... Although, maybe, I might take a short hiatus from making BA profile to focus on other things after I am done with Hina. Like a week or two to prevent burn out.
 
Pretty much, ye. Next profile up is Hina (And Hoshino, as her scaling mainly comes from her, and her Allter/Terror will likely be High 6-A), since I have finally caught up to V1C3! Then, Shiroko, since her scaling comes from Wakamo and Hoshino... or maybe Shiroko Alter since she (probs) killed Hoshino Alter in her time? Idk, haven't planned that far ahead yet, lel.

... Although, maybe, I might take a short hiatus from making BA profile to focus on other things after I am done with Hina. Like a week or two to prevent burn out.
Figuring out Hoshino Terror's tiering will be pretty fun, I'm sure. Especially with those screenshots I shared before.

Understandable. That was kinda me a while back when I was trying to singlehandedly manage all the Symphogear profiles :P
 
Back from my semi-break. Toki's profile is 90% done. Just need to rewatch Akira's events + V2C2 and read Toki's relationship for intel scans and then I can upload her profile and add it to the verse page.

Might also try to find some of the calcs I did for BA anime to possibly upgrade the speed rating + find supporting stuff for the current I've in my laptop that I did back when the anime was running.
 

Done.
 

Done.
Good stuff. Will adjust some things accordingly later.
 

Forums died so a bit late on this, but... Shiroko is done. Hoshino and Hina don't really have much "unique" things 'bout him that sets them apart other students, so I'mma thinking... of doing the Player/Sensei profile before 'em. Not sure, tho.

Btw. I noticed a recalc of my 6-A calc, which downgrades it to 6-B... I actually think it is legit and fixes the issues I'd with it, so I'mma going to push for it to be approved and then make the needed CRT for the downgrade.
 

Forums died so a bit late on this, but... Shiroko is done. Hoshino and Hina don't really have much "unique" things 'bout him that sets them apart other students, so I'mma thinking... of doing the Player/Sensei profile before 'em. Not sure, tho.

Btw. I noticed a recalc of my 6-A calc, which downgrades it to 6-B... I actually think it is legit and fixes the issues I'd with it, so I'mma going to push for it to be approved and then make the needed CRT for the downgrade.
Well then, I didn’t figure someone would try to recalc this even though the verse isn’t as popular here. Such occurrences usually only happen with more popular ones here. I don’t know what that entails but I guess the increased activity in editing the profiles probably initiated that. The new calc reminds me of an old Kyogre planetary storm calc, fyi.

On one side, this would amusingly put the students at high 6C to 6B if my rough estimations are correct. That would put on same footing with B-tier Legendary Pokémon as well as nearly all Nasuverse characters (prior to the recent decision to nuke them entirely from the website). That’s kinda neat, I guess.

On another hand, while it does seem legit, I’m still not on board with this one. This is based off the kind of spherical planet calcs that have mixed results of accuracy. So I’d say hold off on the revisions for now.
Btw, you commented in the old calc about no frame-by-frame rate, so here’s the Chinese server PV for Vol F that might provide something. It’s L2D, not animated, so I dunno about the legitimacy of this as to whether or not this is an accurate depiction of the estimated speed of the feat.
 
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