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I'll contact Soldier Blue and see what he thinks of it.
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Bleach: Speed upgrade
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And if Ichigo just used his reiatsu to send everything flying? Is not the first time.
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Ichigo has never demonstrated to do this before, in addition to being evident that he used the swords for this.
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Simple feat needing all this discussion all because of the rating lmao.
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Wait, if Ichigo used both swords for this, wouldn't he have to move each arm only ten or eleven times?USklaverei said:
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Yes
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Currenlty the calc only puts him as moving one arm 21 times.
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So the argument in favor of the speed feat is
"The arrows didn't dissipate so ichigo must have hit every arrow one by one because if not they would have been destroyed"
This doesn't make any sense. You're saying he hit each arrow individually which means he managed to somehow maneuver his swords in between each arrow without hitting a second one with his swings.
With the positioning of the arrows and the size of his swords that is physically impossible unless he thrusted his sword at each arrow individually as a thrust attack is the only possible way he could have used his swords to deflect each arrow one by one.
There are at least two scenarios that are more likely than this.
Scenario one:He didn't hit them on by one or all at once. He simply swung like a normal person would and deflected multiple arrows at once.
Scenario two:He flexed his reiatsu this is supported by the fact that on page 9 when candice flies towards ichigo you can see the shape of both of his swords still sheathed
"The arrows didn't dissipate so ichigo must have hit every arrow one by one because if not they would have been destroyed"
This doesn't make any sense. You're saying he hit each arrow individually which means he managed to somehow maneuver his swords in between each arrow without hitting a second one with his swings.
With the positioning of the arrows and the size of his swords that is physically impossible unless he thrusted his sword at each arrow individually as a thrust attack is the only possible way he could have used his swords to deflect each arrow one by one.
There are at least two scenarios that are more likely than this.
Scenario one:He didn't hit them on by one or all at once. He simply swung like a normal person would and deflected multiple arrows at once.
Scenario two:He flexed his reiatsu this is supported by the fact that on page 9 when candice flies towards ichigo you can see the shape of both of his swords still sheathed
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And why could not he swing his swords between each arrow?
Scenario one:He didn't hit them on by one or all at once. He simply swung like a normal person would and deflected multiple arrows at once.
I really will not answer the same thing, this has already been approached and unmasked, if it is to create an argument, read the whole topic, it gets annoying to be answering the same things.
Scenario two:He flexed his reiatsu this is supported by the fact that on page 9 when candice flies towards ichigo you can see the shape of both of his swords still sheathed
This has already been answered, I will not repeat everything again.
Scenario one:He didn't hit them on by one or all at once. He simply swung like a normal person would and deflected multiple arrows at once.
I really will not answer the same thing, this has already been approached and unmasked, if it is to create an argument, read the whole topic, it gets annoying to be answering the same things.
Scenario two:He flexed his reiatsu this is supported by the fact that on page 9 when candice flies towards ichigo you can see the shape of both of his swords still sheathed
This has already been answered, I will not repeat everything again.
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Yes, in both cases he would have to move his arm 21 times.Damage3245 said:
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Assuming Ichigo used both arms (and assuming he deflected each one individually), the result would be 6.41% the speed of light, or Sub-Relativistic+.
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@Paul
Scenario one:He didn't hit them on by one or all at once. He simply swung like a normal person would and deflected multiple arrows at once.
Which again would destroy them likeevery bloody time.
Scenario two:He flexed his reiatsu this is supported by the fact that on page 9 when candice flies towards ichigo you can see the shape of both of his swords still sheathed.
I advise you to reread the entire chapter again, because none of this occured, his weapons were literally already out and candice dashed towards him after all of this.
Also using "impossible" is the worst argument here possible, as if anything he does is possible in the 1st place.
Scenario one:He didn't hit them on by one or all at once. He simply swung like a normal person would and deflected multiple arrows at once.
Which again would destroy them likeevery bloody time.
Scenario two:He flexed his reiatsu this is supported by the fact that on page 9 when candice flies towards ichigo you can see the shape of both of his swords still sheathed.
I advise you to reread the entire chapter again, because none of this occured, his weapons were literally already out and candice dashed towards him after all of this.
Also using "impossible" is the worst argument here possible, as if anything he does is possible in the 1st place.
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If hitting multiple arrows in one swing would destroy them
Why would hitting one arrow at a time not destroy them
He is using the same amount of force
Why would hitting one arrow at a time not destroy them
He is using the same amount of force
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If hitting multiple arrows in one swing would destroy them
Why would hitting one arrow at a time not destroy them
Because he carefully redirected them as a show of his physical prowess.
He is using the same amount of force.
Prove it, which again wouldn't even matter because broken arrows don't level a city blocks.
Why would hitting one arrow at a time not destroy them
Because he carefully redirected them as a show of his physical prowess.
He is using the same amount of force.
Prove it, which again wouldn't even matter because broken arrows don't level a city blocks.
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He would still have to move his arms 21 times, does not change things.Damage3245 said:
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Actually, it does.USklaverei said:
If there are 21 arrows, and Ichigo uses both arms then he would have had to move each arm 10 or 11 times.
Meaning he is moving one arm at most 11 times in the timeframe. Which makes his feat Sub-Relativistic+.
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So he carefully redirected each one one by one to flex on the femritters
But he couldn't have carefully redirected more than one at a time to flex on the femritters?
But he couldn't have carefully redirected more than one at a time to flex on the femritters?
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Honestly I might have to do the same as peter before I get an aneuysm. Stop repeating the same thing over and over and over.
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Yes, he is moving one arm at most 11 times in the time period, however, his other arm also made motions during, the movement of the two arms are counted.Damage3245 said:
I'll ask one of the calc members, if you count only one, I'll update the calculation, wait a minute.
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I know that is crossed out but I'll answer anyway. This is an indexing site ovo
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I talked to two members and they said that only one is better, but there is another problem with the calculation.
I will correct everything and see what you give.
I will correct everything and see what you give.
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Rules: "Occam's razor is the problem-solving principle that essentially states that "simpler solutions are more likely to be correct than complex ones." When presented with competing hypotheses to solve a problem, one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions."
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Occam's Razor is inapplicable here in the face of evidence supporting one side of the argument. It is intellectually dishonest of persons to try and utilize the Razor in favor of their own argument when evidence exists to dismiss its application as such (not claiming you are presuming its use in support of any such signifcant position on this thread, merely pre-empting its application in such a manner).
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We're currently waiting for the calc to be updated.Sekkonds. said:
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Update me, for what?
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USklaverei said about six posts up that he found a couple issues with the calc, so he'll correct it.Callsign Castle said:
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The calculation was corrected, the result fell from Relativist to Sub-Relativist + (on a very high scale).
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That form of Ichigo is also Sub-Relativistic+ currently, right?
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Yes
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I don't now why you are using natural lighting speed while her lighting said to be way superior than any lighting in nature
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Because we don't know by how much superior her lightning is
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It's a reasonable safe lowball, assuming any higher is baseless since we don't know how much higher.
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@Tata, do you also disagree with the currently used calc for Liltotto's speed? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...otto_diverts_from_the_thunderbolt_of_Candicce
I think it is definitely questionable to say the least.
I think it is definitely questionable to say the least.
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