This seems like an extreme over complication I've never once heard of. He created the space-time continuum for said location why do all these very specific things need to be stated?
Well not specifically "stated" but implied somehow. And its like this because of the current standards needing the entirety of the timeline effected in order for Low 2-C to be gained.
That said, given the obviously
massive amounts of confusion in this thread, a thread to actually discuss, clarify and add this standard to the main tiering page is what should be done. And frankly, is what should've been done
well before this thread reached 5 pages. Could've saved a lot of time, and headaches, by doing this.
If you want to downgrade a verse first change the tiering system. Its nowhere stated need to affect past, present and future. Creating a space time continuum is 4D feat.
The prior quotes and blatant clarifications from staff, and the fact that other series are getting their Low 2-C ratings removed too, say otherwise. The tiering system has always been like this, hence the definition isn't changed (cited by Ultima).
The way its being applied is what needs to be changed, and is where the confusion is coming from.
Also explain to me how do you create a Space time continuum? What do you consider a space time Continuum. So just stating Space time continuum is not enough?. You people want Kubo to come down and say. "Yo, Yhwach was about to nuke whole timeline which has past present and future, blah blah blah".
Don't get sarcastic with me simply clarifying how this site does things (even if not all of us agree). This is simply how the standards work for this. Effecting all of a timeline, across the past, present and future, is needed to be proven for Low 2-C. Stated, shown, implied, whatever you can get to meet this. Then Low 2-C can be brought to the table.
Issue is, if you're affecting time and space on a univesal scale, it's usually seen as affecting all points in it. Of course, I might be wrong, and if I am I'll concede to this topic.
That's the general misconception that most of us, until now, have viewed the Low 2-C requirements. But now with recent clarifications, this isn't how Low 2-C gets reached anymore. Effecting space-time on a universal scale would only mean effecting one singular snapshot out of the infinite snapshots within one timeline, which is at the most 3-A.
However, like I told Sigurd above, someone here
absolutely should have made a thread about this to get more clarification and discussion on the standard, and getting it added to the main explanation page of the tiering system. A lot of time and headaches throughout this thread would've been saved if someone did that.
What I meant was that even verses that genuinely qualify for tier 2 don't usually use that kind of language.
Oh. Well from that vein, I agree, but statements of course are not the only form of evidence. And definitely not the gold standard. Anything that states, shows, or implies time from other or all points getting effected would most certainly be helpful.
But personally speaking, honestly, a thread to get more staff analyzation and a full concrete discussion on this whole matter is the most beneficial thing to do at this point so we can kill the confusions once and for all.
. Also for proof Ichigo team thrown back to 7 days past and Isshin states Cleaner can throw back people centuries past. Dangai Ichigo is another example.
. Also you know Yhwach is given possible 2C rating not 2C.
