Bleach Bankai/Release Multiplier

[Zezu1995]

Now i know we all know the the scan.. and release is almost the same but slightly weaker... SO this is what i think we should do as a group in order to scale correctly without bias/lowball/high balling.. 1- instead of going "why would we assume its 10x " crap.. why dont we all just agree on a number between 5-10...

2- I say we pick 7 .. its right in the middle 5-6 (7)-8-9-10... not only that but tis not a low ball and its not a high ball either, we can apply this to every who gets a physical stat amp from bankai and scale those who fought on equal footing or near it... shinigamis get 7 while espadas get 6 since its stated "almost as strong"

3- All i remember is Shinigami=Ichigo,kenpachi,kensei,renji,ikkaku,sanjin ( i think not sure)

Espadas=Ulq,Grimmjow.. ya know almost all of them gives a stat amp tbh...

 

[Damage3245]

Yorucihi says the 'combat ability' gets multiplied by that amount. That doesn't necessarily mean Attack Potency.

 

[Zezu1995]

kenpachi is literally proof for some tho... why you always trynna ignore something.. kenny is raw power... his bankai just makes him strong proven by his fight with not only gremmy but gerald when his shikai without eye patch couldnt even do anything but his bankai did.. anyways other than that... do you agree we should pick a number and run with it?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Case by case, for example someone like Ichigo. His bankai amps his speed greatly.

 

[Zezu1995]

i dont really care about the whole "his bankai dont amp this and that" we still need to pick a number since one wasnt given .. yal assume things all the time for feats.. whats wrong with doing it for this?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

For Shinigami and Arrancars who only receive a stat boost of some kind, its pretty straight forward to apply the multiplier directly to whatever stat gets boosted.

As for the thread topic, doesn't the site require the multipliers to fit the feats shown? To apply this multiplier, wouldn't we need a High 7-A+~6-C feat to say that the multiplier is anything more than an arbitrary number.

 

[Zezu1995]

that would make sense but the best thing we got for that is ulq with lanza and maybe kenny? other than that i cant think of much .

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Ichigo, and Ikkaku.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

So I just glanced at Ichigos profile, and I'm not sure the multiplier would fit.

 

[Zezu1995]

ok so the number has to match their feats?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

So I just glanced at Ichigos profile, and I'm not sure the multiplier would fit.

?

 

[Zezu1995]

doesnt that make it easier?

 

[USklaverei]

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[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

He jumps from mountain level to country level and then to moon level, which is far more than a 10x boost.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Also with the possible upgrade to 6-C or High 6-C, it definitely wont fit.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

What do his current ratings what do with a multiplier? and a small one none the less which has different criteria as opposed to larger ones such as 50x or higher. Nowhere on the multiplier page do I see anything about matching up with calcs that change on a whim.

The criteria is

• come from a valid source.
• show a clear statistic amp in series.
• the greater the multiplier the more evidence is needed.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

As his profile is right now, Ichigo goes from Mountain Level to Country Level. Which is far more than a 10X boost which means the multiplayer is useless.

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

He jumps from mountain level to country level and then to moon level, which is far more than a 10x boost.

his jump from mountain to country isn't based on bankai tho,its based on his Dangai training and Final Getsuga Tensho, which multiplier is impossible to measure,and is never stated anywhere

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

As his profile is right now, Ichigo goes from Mountain Level to Country Level. Which is far more than a 10X boost which means the multiplayer is useless.

That has nothing to do with his Bankai, Mountain to Country is based off him finally not being restraint by his quincy powers and accepting his true nature. Ichigo prior to EOS is entirely different.

Even then those ratings would just be multiplied, Gin already has a multiplier on his profile taking him to 6-C or something.

 

[AstralKing7]

Its on the rules for the multipliers that it has to add up but I'm not too sure about the current calc values

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

In order for this multiplier to work you would have to apply it to all of his Shikai to Bankai transformations.

 

[M11UTD]

I think we can also use this multiplier for back scaling. Like if we know how powerful someones's bankai or shikai is, we can get the power of the previous form by dividing it on 5-10.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Its on the rules for the multipliers that it has to add up but I'm not too sure about the current calc values

copy and paste where it say multipliers needs to match some calc.

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

I think we can also use this multiplier for back scaling. Like if we know how powerful someones's bankai or shikai is, we can get the power of the previous form by dividing it on 5-10.

that would ruin the scaling,probably

 

[M11UTD]

Nah it's also case by case.

 

[M11UTD]

Like we can get the power of base Zaraki when he fought Gremmy by getting 1/5 the power of his shikai.

 

[M11UTD]

I think it makes way more sense than just jumping from mountain level to country, that's like 10k boost.

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

Before doing the multipliers, you should finish with Las Noches calcs.

 

[AstralKing7]

copy and paste where it say multipliers needs to match some calc.


I didn't mean match literally but it's said that it has to be consistent the jump in AP. So I don't know if these calcs match the multipliers

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I didn't mean match literally but it's said that it has to be consistent the jump in AP. So I don't know if these calcs match the multipliers

No where does it say that on the multiplier page. The rules for multipliers depend on the degree of the multiplier itself, how consistent it is, and does it show a clear stat amp.

 

[Zezu1995]

truth be told the calcs might never match . and i feel if we use it we might have to again redo everything sigh so it just might be to much of an issue to really do. its up to you guys if you can find a way to work it

 

[Sekkonds.]

I've never trusted that multiplier..take byakuya as an example

His shikai contain 1000 petals..but then the bankai comes and multiplier them to 100 million petals

x10??

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

where does it say it multiplies petal count for Byakuya?

 

[USklaverei]

I think a multiplier of 7.5 is better, since it is the correct medium between 5 and 10.

 

[USklaverei]

HoS Ichigo has a multiplier that is very consistent.

Orihime was able to follow the attacks of Yhwach and True Shikai Ichigo, after Ichigo's transformation she did not even see him move.

 

[AppleLord]

No.

 

[Zezu1995]

where does it say it multiplies petal count for Byakuya?

his fight vs that espada and some other time

 

[Sekkonds.]

where does it say it multiplies petal count for Byakuya?

since the bankai is just a multiplier for shikai..where do you think these 100 million petals came from?

 

[Zezu1995]

the thing about byakuya is that currently his shikai is like his old bankai and his new bankai is better but we dont know how much it has but its more now

 

[AppleLord]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?