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Bleach Bankai General Discussion Thread 23
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Free country, go ahead.
And no, he can't. All Bleach profiles have NPI but that is because they can all interact with ghosts which are intangible, most can be scaled to interact with Spirit Ribbons which are invisible and intangible to souls normally but even these guys can't interact with Lille. Lille has the best can't touch this ability in all of Bleach which has guys like Jugram "No U" Haschwalth, Yhwach "Get Precogged" Almighty, Baraggan "When You Were a Boy" Louisenbairn, or Aizen "Is It Real/RC GG" Sosuke
And no, he can't. All Bleach profiles have NPI but that is because they can all interact with ghosts which are intangible, most can be scaled to interact with Spirit Ribbons which are invisible and intangible to souls normally but even these guys can't interact with Lille. Lille has the best can't touch this ability in all of Bleach which has guys like Jugram "No U" Haschwalth, Yhwach "Get Precogged" Almighty, Baraggan "When You Were a Boy" Louisenbairn, or Aizen "Is It Real/RC GG" Sosuke
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Do you know which event it was? Cuz the only thing I can think of rn is the oni one from Halloween.
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Isn't the almighty less effective in vs threads than it would be in a real world scenario. Since in a thread you can make the opponent start in a form he may never be able use in a real world fight because the almighty user will just precog and null it.
For example take U6 arc Goku- in a vs thread you could make him start in SSB in which he is tier 2 so unaffected by the almighty. But if the almighty user ever turned up in Dragonball earth he'd easily kill Goku before he has the chance to go SSB thanks to pre-cog.
And in the real world, the almighty user would use his pre-cog to attack the opponent in advance which isn't really allowed in a vs thread.
When you put an almighty user in a vs thread situation you are technically putting them into a timeline that they would never let themselves get into in the real world since they would have pre-cogged it and avoided it somehow.
And so on-
For example take U6 arc Goku- in a vs thread you could make him start in SSB in which he is tier 2 so unaffected by the almighty. But if the almighty user ever turned up in Dragonball earth he'd easily kill Goku before he has the chance to go SSB thanks to pre-cog.
And in the real world, the almighty user would use his pre-cog to attack the opponent in advance which isn't really allowed in a vs thread.
When you put an almighty user in a vs thread situation you are technically putting them into a timeline that they would never let themselves get into in the real world since they would have pre-cogged it and avoided it somehow.
And so on-
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Not really. The precog and null is passive the moment they are dropped in is the moment the enemy has already been Almighty GG'd. And the SSB Goku example isn't the Almighty being less effective, it's the match being set up against Yhwach.
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That won't be much longer, BBS will be releasing Quincy units over the course of 2020 (excluding the current characters: Ichibe, Ohetsu, and Orihime, and the next set: the remainder of Squad 0)Zezu1995 said:
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Didn't like the parts where the guy just resaid what he said earlier while adding a bit to it too well, but its pretty good. Though I do disagree with a few of his points.
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Which points you disagree ?Duedate8898 said:
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I disagree mostly with how he looks at the Fullbring Arc and the key aspects to Ichigo as a character. Mainly because he seems to really ignore Ichigo's natural battle lust and instead just puts that under Ichigo's want to protect people. With the Fullbring Arc, starting with a minor thing, he gets the source of Ichigo's strength in his human form wrong, and my larger problem, being a reboot. i also find the theme more to be along the lines of redescovering oneself, since the entire arc is with Ichigo pursuing something he lost and less of him dealing with it in of itself.
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Looking at some Bleach profiles, you realize that there is a lot wrong with speed sizing.
Base Aizen is superior to Shunsui, however, Shunsui is Relativistic and Aizen MHS +.
Isshin is level with Yoruichi and Kisuke, however, Kisuke and Yoruichi are Relativistic and Isshin MHS +.
Byakuya Post-Time Skip is Relativistic, but Tsukishima who pushed him totally is MHS +.
This needs to be fixed.
Base Aizen is superior to Shunsui, however, Shunsui is Relativistic and Aizen MHS +.
Isshin is level with Yoruichi and Kisuke, however, Kisuke and Yoruichi are Relativistic and Isshin MHS +.
Byakuya Post-Time Skip is Relativistic, but Tsukishima who pushed him totally is MHS +.
This needs to be fixed.
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Fullbring Ichigo was also ripping Tsukishima a new one so he might also be Relativistic especially since he re did the speed clone thing he did against ByakuyaUSklaverei said:
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This is true, the speed scaling outside of final arc is pretty shit.
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We also gotta fix Pre-Timeskip speed since Soldier Blue left it in a bit of mess as compared to the standards of threads nowadays.
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we don't know how long it take to create one.
There is also the fact that you need to feed it a shit ton of souls and potentially pieces of the soul king to fully power it .
There is also the fact that you need to feed it a shit ton of souls and potentially pieces of the soul king to fully power it .
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i wouldn't say better .
Yhwach can't neg raw AP but Lille can but can get touched by hax(like RW) while Almighty can't .
Yhwach can't neg raw AP but Lille can but can get touched by hax(like RW) while Almighty can't .
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Because most hax in the series requires contact. Kenny's spatial cut, Respira, Sakanade's inversion, Yama's EE flames, Book of the End, Suzumebachi. Almighty is good but I was speaking in the context of defense so what Naeblis said is pretty much the case. Stopping hax is nice and all but if you can't take them in an actual fight, it's kinda useless whereas X Axis lets you waltz through most of the series and incon even if you are complete trash at fighting. Stuff like Antithesis and Balance are the rare few that would bypass it as they don't need contact. If you look at offensive properties, it is also top tier as it dura negs everything so your stats don't even matter.
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yeah , clearly X-axis is one of strongest power in bleach . Top tier defense , offense, AOE, good regen and utility (teleportation).
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Since Kenpachi had his eyepatch off when he beat Unohana shouldn't she scale above his eyepatch version ? So low 6B+ ? Especially since the low 6B+ feat was a very casual feat.
She should also logically be above Gin due to hype, status, etc.
Her somewhat scaling to Yamamoto is also reasonable.
She should also logically be above Gin due to hype, status, etc.
Her somewhat scaling to Yamamoto is also reasonable.
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imo , yeah she should be relative to him .
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Unohana will likely be getting an upgrade through Kenpachi later down the line.
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SK candidates seem to be people who have gone beyond the limits of their race but even more than just two races crossing over or something like that. Ichigo is part everything, Ginjo is a Fullbringer which also includes Hollow as well as Ichigo's shard and Shinigami, Aizen had the Hog elevate himself, Yhwach is his son and has the Almighty etc.
No to any Fullbringer having SK potential.
Pretty sure Engetsu refuses to teach him the FGT.
His Bankai is literally "I can't lose to anyone not Yhwach" so yes he has plot armor.
Mask Hiyori is, gag scenes for base mean nothing so they wouldn't scale, just back scale at best one the multipliers are accepted and applied.
No. Aizen bodied him because he couldn't resist it.
No to any Fullbringer having SK potential.
Pretty sure Engetsu refuses to teach him the FGT.
His Bankai is literally "I can't lose to anyone not Yhwach" so yes he has plot armor.
Mask Hiyori is, gag scenes for base mean nothing so they wouldn't scale, just back scale at best one the multipliers are accepted and applied.
No. Aizen bodied him because he couldn't resist it.
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Seriously? Is it them being matched up or the characters themselves?
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Was it the SK vs Otsutsuki team thread? Cuz people kept bringing up Yhwach in that and was getting out of hand last I saw.
