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Well I certainly did not think I would be making this CRT, but someone that will remain unnamed brought to attention some valid scaling changes that needed to be made, I went through a lot of the information, even reread a lot of Black Clover's fights and talked to my Online BFF to triple check this stuff cause I didn't want to be clowned on for not knowing the scaling or anything, also I didn't want people to hate me for potentially changing the scaling a bit
So what is this change? Lumiere does not directly scale to Demon Licht's 62.88 Teratons Country nuking attack. Now he does scale to it partially as I will explain later, but let me get into the main reasons why Lumiere does not directly scale to Demon Licht.
In their fight, Lumiere at no point manages to injure or hurt Demon Licht (Read all of Chapter 205 to see the full fight). We don't see any on-screen instance where Demon Licht is damaged by Lumiere's attacks, and we don't see any lasting or lingering injures that could have been inflicted on Demon Licht off screen, so this means the only time Lumiere managed to hurt Demon Licht is when Licht intentionally left himself defenseless and allowed himself to be killed by Lumiere. This means that Lumiere has no direct feat that confirms he scales to Demon Licht's Durability. Ok, let's get into another issue, Demon Licht clearly greatly injured and messed up Lumiere using his regular attacks and when he began to charge his ultimate final attack that would have nuked the clover kingdom, Lumiere is very scared and not confident he could stop the blast. Some say this is only in reference to AOE and not being able to protect civilians, but the implication is tha this attack is too much for Lumiere, so it supports that Lumiere does not directly scale to it.
Let's get into the more solid shit, we know that Lumiere and Regular Licht are stated to be equals in terms of magic and abilities. We also see them directly shown as equals in their battle with Zagred. Lumiere and Licht (Licht was also Incomplete for the first few feats and overall only had one sword the entire fight BTW) both hurt and block attacks from Zagred, fighting basically on par with him. Zagred also manages to hurt Lumiere, so these guys all scale comparable to each other. Now here's the thing, we directly know that Licht took in a tremendous amount of negative Mana into his own body before becoming a Demon, this is directly telling us that Licht is being amped and has far greater Mana than normal when he is entering his Demon form. So if Lumiere and Licht are equals when Licht is in his normal state, and Demon Licht is explicitly a Licht that has added a massive amount of Negative Mana to his already normal reserves of Mana, then it's blatantly true that Demon Licht is stronger than Lumiere. At the very least, Demon Licht is very clearly above the Incomplete One Sword version of himself that was already relative to Zagred's regular level spells. So this also supports why Lumiere does not directly scale to Demon Licht's full power.
Ok, so now that I have established all of that, what do I believe they should scale to? Now this is actually fairly simple and straightforward based on what I believe. We know that Demon Licht's ultimate final blast has all four of his hands combine their magic into a huge ball of energy. It's explicitly shown that all four of his hands must come together to make this attack. Now what are Lumiere's best feats in this fight? Lumiere directly clashes evenly with and easily blocks the blasts of energy from one of Demon Licht's hands twice. So if all four hands combining energy togther is what forms the country destroying blast and Lumiere is able to easily block and clash with the energy from one of the hands that forms this blast, then he should at the very least be scaling to 1/4th of the feat itself.
Therefore I propose that it be noted that Demon Licht's 1 hand blasts are 1/4 as strong as the country nuke on his profile, and this would directly scale to Lumiere, Demon Licht, Zagred, etc. So all of these characters end up becoming 15.72 Teratons (Country level). Now I know this would effect basically everything, but the point is that I believe this is the scale that would make the most sense. Lumiere still ends up scaling partially to the feat, supporting how he still somewhat relative to Demon Licht in their fight, and yet the narrative that he is weaker than Demon Licht is still preserved
So what is this change? Lumiere does not directly scale to Demon Licht's 62.88 Teratons Country nuking attack. Now he does scale to it partially as I will explain later, but let me get into the main reasons why Lumiere does not directly scale to Demon Licht.
In their fight, Lumiere at no point manages to injure or hurt Demon Licht (Read all of Chapter 205 to see the full fight). We don't see any on-screen instance where Demon Licht is damaged by Lumiere's attacks, and we don't see any lasting or lingering injures that could have been inflicted on Demon Licht off screen, so this means the only time Lumiere managed to hurt Demon Licht is when Licht intentionally left himself defenseless and allowed himself to be killed by Lumiere. This means that Lumiere has no direct feat that confirms he scales to Demon Licht's Durability. Ok, let's get into another issue, Demon Licht clearly greatly injured and messed up Lumiere using his regular attacks and when he began to charge his ultimate final attack that would have nuked the clover kingdom, Lumiere is very scared and not confident he could stop the blast. Some say this is only in reference to AOE and not being able to protect civilians, but the implication is tha this attack is too much for Lumiere, so it supports that Lumiere does not directly scale to it.
Let's get into the more solid shit, we know that Lumiere and Regular Licht are stated to be equals in terms of magic and abilities. We also see them directly shown as equals in their battle with Zagred. Lumiere and Licht (Licht was also Incomplete for the first few feats and overall only had one sword the entire fight BTW) both hurt and block attacks from Zagred, fighting basically on par with him. Zagred also manages to hurt Lumiere, so these guys all scale comparable to each other. Now here's the thing, we directly know that Licht took in a tremendous amount of negative Mana into his own body before becoming a Demon, this is directly telling us that Licht is being amped and has far greater Mana than normal when he is entering his Demon form. So if Lumiere and Licht are equals when Licht is in his normal state, and Demon Licht is explicitly a Licht that has added a massive amount of Negative Mana to his already normal reserves of Mana, then it's blatantly true that Demon Licht is stronger than Lumiere. At the very least, Demon Licht is very clearly above the Incomplete One Sword version of himself that was already relative to Zagred's regular level spells. So this also supports why Lumiere does not directly scale to Demon Licht's full power.
Ok, so now that I have established all of that, what do I believe they should scale to? Now this is actually fairly simple and straightforward based on what I believe. We know that Demon Licht's ultimate final blast has all four of his hands combine their magic into a huge ball of energy. It's explicitly shown that all four of his hands must come together to make this attack. Now what are Lumiere's best feats in this fight? Lumiere directly clashes evenly with and easily blocks the blasts of energy from one of Demon Licht's hands twice. So if all four hands combining energy togther is what forms the country destroying blast and Lumiere is able to easily block and clash with the energy from one of the hands that forms this blast, then he should at the very least be scaling to 1/4th of the feat itself.
Therefore I propose that it be noted that Demon Licht's 1 hand blasts are 1/4 as strong as the country nuke on his profile, and this would directly scale to Lumiere, Demon Licht, Zagred, etc. So all of these characters end up becoming 15.72 Teratons (Country level). Now I know this would effect basically everything, but the point is that I believe this is the scale that would make the most sense. Lumiere still ends up scaling partially to the feat, supporting how he still somewhat relative to Demon Licht in their fight, and yet the narrative that he is weaker than Demon Licht is still preserved
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