I don't understand what your argument is, but even with their power ups (stronger and faster than their versions that fought Corrupted Patri), Zagred thinks their speed in that version can't reach him, whereas Licht and Lumiere were casually blitzing him
Bro, have you forgotten that the person who defeated the Dark Elf was Nozel, and Asta Yuno at that time was not stronger than the Dark Elf at all?
They were powerful and fast enough to contend and keep up with him
Yes, But is just combat speed not travel speed.
At that time, I probably didn't even know about Vs wiki.
II know, and I was sorta agreeing with him because even if a light/beam shows properties and behavior like real light it doesn't mean it's automatically light speed in BC, as shown with Gauche beam. I already mentioned this in that same thread but people deliberately ignore that important fact
He is still trying to give dark elf Patti ftl attack speed
FTL combat speed or at least FTL reactions can still be argued because narratively speaking, Corrupted Light Magic is faster than Normal Light. But these MFTL calcs have to go
It is either relavistic+ or mftl. There is no in between. Everyone already scales above corrupted light magic. (Which if you give it ftl speeds would still make it so that Dante blitzed asta even though demon light magic was something he could perceive and barley block.
We've never really seen Yuno or Asta fight Corrupted Patry again after they received a power up to beat Zagred (which was still not fast enough to match Litch and Lumiere speed according to Zagred himself), so that's not really true. The only characters that could be scaled to or above Corrupted Patry are Litch and Lumiere, one of whom casually blitzed (and stomped) Asta and Yuno with more ease than Corrupted Patry did. I'm honestly happy to see that LS is still relevant in the current arc lol. The idea that Litch and Lumiere still hold the title of being the fastest is just so damn right
