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Black Clover General Discussion thread

Kazuma_kuwabara said:
To someone who did even worse harassment, who treats everyone like pure garbage and who have an elitism attitude of "My opinion---> yours" every, single, time
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Cool. Does that make you correct to respond how you are? To stoop to the same level of just repeating over and over as if that is some kind of own against them?

If you start looking the exact same as the person you claim is bad, maybe re-evaluate how you’re approaching the problem.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Cool. Does that make you correct to respond how you are? To stoop to the same level of just repeating over and over as if that is some kind of own against them?

If you start looking the exact same as the person you claim is bad, maybe re-evaluate how you’re approaching the problem.
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Yes to everything
 
Worthless said:
You are referencing a scene that barely shows anything beyond the outcome. I’m not sure if you’ll understand this (not that I expect you to, because you clearly can’t read a story) but it’s obvious that his ultimate form wasn’t shown in that chapter because it was meant for a later revelation.
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Lol a whole bunch of head canon 😭 why are you claiming something that was never shown. In fact, prove that Lucius can even use sacred power without having Luciferos powers yet.
Worthless said:
The only thing that makes sense in the part you mentioned is the fact that he ate his second heart.
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This is just you lacking basic reading comprehension
Worthless said:
Sure, but this doesn’t prove your point. You are literally referencing a scene that barely shows anything beyond the outcome and forcing your false narrative onto it for your outlandish, laughable scaling 💀
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Since it is what is shown,you can’t just claim that something else happened as that is straight up headcanon.your whole argument is based on that. Everything I listed is backed up with multiple pieces of evidence that you just ignore cause you don’t want to believe it.it barley showing anything is irrelevant,we use what is shown.
Worthless said:
Solo the entire underworld in base form? 💀
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He beat lucifero in base form. And he literally already had Lucifero other heart from adremalic
Worthless said:
I don’t think you fully comprehend the weight of what you’re saying. And that's literally just straight up headcanon. Please be better.
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Ironic your whole argument is, even tho it wasn’t shown or stated and what was shown was actually the opposite of what you are saying ,you are still right.
Worthless said:
Great, a typical power scaling response: "He said he is stronger than Julius while in base, so that must mean he is only referencing his base form." You’re literally trying to go against the narrative, as well as Lucius and Asta own statements. If Julius isn’t even relevant to them anymore, Lucius wouldn’t even have mentioned his name, but he did which mean his strength is still relevant to them.
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Nice strawman. He is stated to be stronger BECAUSE he soloed the underworld.from what we can see and none of your headcanon (he did that in base form). Since that is probably too much for you to comprehend I will dumb it down.

They say he is stronger. Repeat after me.now read the scan again and tell me WHY they say he is stronger.after you are done that,repeat it a few times.now go look at the scan of him fighting Lucifero and tell me what form he is in.

And your headcanon about him using sacred power form doesn’t even make sense. Go ahead and prove that he can use it. What is needed for that in the first place is the devils soul. Unless you can prove that he can purify without it then you can’t even prove that he can even use it. Also even after he beat asta ,he still didn’t go back to base,so why would you assume he did that here?
Worthless said:
Except he did. And no amount of copium changing that fact.
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Read it slowly
Worthless said:
Except it absolutely makes sense.

Until you can prove that Nacht is referring to a supreme devil stronger than Baal himself i.e., the king of devils, then he is only referring to Lilith and Namaah, a supreme devils both inferior to Baal.
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A supreme devil is a race. “Stronger than a human” it narratively makes 0 sense for him to say “be careful he is stronger than the weakest floor supreme devil” this statement is AFTER he has seen Lucius who already way stronger than Lucifero. This is ignoring the fact that Baal alone is already stronger than naalith let alone the massive amp a paladin gets. Even more so if you are trying to say that Morgan (who is stronger than Lucifero ) is thousands of times stronger than damnatio that would mean nacht new transformation gave him that massive amp that allowed him to fight Morgan. And yet again Noelle already fought magicula who is WAY stronger than naalith. That alone proves that even though the paladins are nerfed and they are buffed while also having gotten WAY stronger they still have to gang up to beat paladins. Proves that paladins are stronger than megicula even while nerfed massively.
Worthless said:
You are proving nothing.

"A few times"? Mfs could barely damage Lucifero base form and it took Yami + William + Natch just do to so, let alone his 50%. I’m genuinely surprised the new chapter taught you nothing, because you could say the same thing about their speed. The stronger they are, the faster they become. Yet even with all those power ups you assume they received, they’re still bellow the speed of light. Lmfao.
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You think there is a difference between base form and 50% Lucifero? lol. And the reason they couldn’t damage him is cause his overwhelming AMOUNT of magic power which reduced most attacks.and that is still a difference of a few times.
Worthless said:
You prove nothing.

Good. Thanks for proving you suck at scaling.

You know what’s the funniest part? You write all of this yet present not a single solid piece of evidence, just a bunch of headcanon that you deliberately misinterpreted to prove your argument.
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The funniest part is that you wrote all this just to use headcanon and not use a single scan while entirely ignoring everything.

I am glad that you decided to name yourself that. At least you are self aware. Now everyone who argues against you will know what they are getting into. Someone who just yaps headcanon until people just give up talking to you. It is a lost cause trying to convince someone who can’t read or comprehend scans.
 
PHANtomFELdway said:
Lol a whole bunch of head canon 😭 why are you claiming something that was never shown. In fact, prove that Lucius can even use sacred power without having Luciferos powers yet.

This is just you lacking basic reading comprehension

Since it is what is shown,you can’t just claim that something else happened as that is straight up headcanon.your whole argument is based on that. Everything I listed is backed up with multiple pieces of evidence that you just ignore cause you don’t want to believe it.it barley showing anything is irrelevant,we use what is shown.

He beat lucifero in base form. And he literally already had Lucifero other heart from adremalic

Ironic your whole argument is, even tho it wasn’t shown or stated and what was shown was actually the opposite of what you are saying ,you are still right.

Nice strawman. He is stated to be stronger BECAUSE he soloed the underworld.from what we can see and none of your headcanon (he did that in base form). Since that is probably too much for you to comprehend I will dumb it down.

They say he is stronger. Repeat after me.now read the scan again and tell me WHY they say he is stronger.after you are done that,repeat it a few times.now go look at the scan of him fighting Lucifero and tell me what form he is in.

And your headcanon about him using sacred power form doesn’t even make sense. Go ahead and prove that he can use it. What is needed for that in the first place is the devils soul. Unless you can prove that he can purify without it then you can’t even prove that he can even use it. Also even after he beat asta ,he still didn’t go back to base,so why would you assume he did that here?

Read it slowly

A supreme devil is a race. “Stronger than a human” it narratively makes 0 sense for him to say “be careful he is stronger than the weakest floor supreme devil” this statement is AFTER he has seen Lucius who already way stronger than Lucifero. This is ignoring the fact that Baal alone is already stronger than naalith let alone the massive amp a paladin gets. Even more so if you are trying to say that Morgan (who is stronger than Lucifero ) is thousands of times stronger than damnatio that would mean nacht new transformation gave him that massive amp that allowed him to fight Morgan. And yet again Noelle already fought magicula who is WAY stronger than naalith. That alone proves that even though the paladins are nerfed and they are buffed while also having gotten WAY stronger they still have to gang up to beat paladins. Proves that paladins are stronger than megicula even while nerfed massively.

You think there is a difference between base form and 50% Lucifero? lol. And the reason they couldn’t damage him is cause his overwhelming AMOUNT of magic power which reduced most attacks.and that is still a difference of a few times.

The funniest part is that you wrote all this just to use headcanon and not use a single scan while entirely ignoring everything.

I am glad that you decided to name yourself that. At least you are self aware. Now everyone who argues against you will know what they are getting into. Someone who just yaps headcanon until people just give up talking to you. It is a lost cause trying to convince someone who can’t read or comprehend scans.
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I'll take you seriously once you actually present even just a single piece of proof that isn't headcanon. But don't you feel embarrassed? We literally have Asta himself saying he hasn't reached Julius level yet. How much do you have to be on copium to deny Asta and Lucius statements?
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
To someone who did even worse harassment, who treats everyone like pure garbage and has an elitism attitude of "My opinion---> yours" every, single, time
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Read my initial response to him where you responded with a video and see if that's anything like what you thought it was. You’re clearly just upset because I was telling the truth. Asta own statement simultaneously destroys the argument that they’re strong enough to treat the strongest devil and pinnacle of humanity as an ant, as you all foolishly suggested. When in the first place, no one is scaled to 5-horns Asta, nor have we seen anyone fight Julius at his full power for that argument to make sense. It's like common sense.
 
Worthless said:
Read my initial response to him and see if that's anything like what you thought it was. You’re clearly just upset because I was telling the truth. Asta own statement simultaneously destroys the argument that they’re strong enough to treat the strongest devil and pinnacle of humanity as an ant, as you all foolishly suggested. When in the first place, no one is scaled to 5-horns Asta, nor have we seen anyone fight Julius at his full power for that argument to make sense. It's like common sense.
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Ok boomer
 
Worthless said:
I can't imagine being someone who thinks Ichika is stronger than the strongest devil and the guy who stands at the highest position of knight and who genuinely thought they were MFTL+
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So someone who have read and understood Black clover then? 🫠
 
And thanks for showing me how all you can do is bark, throw insults, and escalate a not so aggressive argument into an aggressive one, without actually putting up a fight like Phantom did. From the short interaction I've had with the two of you, I now know which one of you I should focus my attention on.

Keep barking while being wrong. And keep believing in the copium that they are still MFTL+ despite the clear statement like whoever that Robo is.
 
Worthless said:
And thanks for showing me how all you can do is bark, throw insults, and escalate a not so aggressive argument into an aggressive one, without actually putting up a fight like Phantom did. From the short interaction I've had with the two of you, I now know which one of you I should focus my attention on.

Keep barking while being wrong. And keep believing in the copium that they are still MFTL+ despite the clear statement like whoever that Robo is.
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Ok boomer
 
Worthless said:
Truth hurts
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Do not worry that your opinion is completely irrelevant for everyone here and all of this messages is just so you don't feel lonely

Also, report me if you want, you would be doing me a favor not gonna lie, final message for you, my time is being wasted here
 
Kazuma_kuwabara said:
Do not worry that your opinion is completely irrelevant for everyone here and all of this messages is just so you don't feel lonely

Also, report me if you want, you would be doing me a favor not gonna lie, final message for you, my time is being wasted here
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You’re literally the one who started this so don’t act like I’m taking your time when I didn’t even ask for it. You can’t even prove your point, unlike Phantom. You’re just barking. And that’s right. I don’t really think they would agree with me, the same bunch that genuinely believes Dorothy is moon/universal level, Fana is mult continental, Ichika is stronger than Lucifero, and the Dark Triad is stronger than Julius.

Y'all are literally the reason why the normal side of the BC fandom hates power scaling
 
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Worthless said:
I'll take you seriously once you actually present even just a single piece of proof that isn't headcanon. But don't you feel embarrassed? We literally have Asta himself saying he hasn't reached Julius level yet. How much do you have to be on copium to deny Asta and Lucius statements?
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Bro genuinely can’t read 😭 Lucius directly states that he is stronger than Julius. And Asta says that he is going to surpass Julius in that fight
 
PHANtomFELdway said:
Bro genuinely can’t read 😭 Lucius directly states that he is stronger than Julius. And Asta says that he is going to surpass Julius in that fight
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You are not getting the point and it's sad. And thank you for accepting your defeat by finally acknowledging Asta statement. And please keep this in mind, Phantom: no one has ever matched or outmatched Lucifero at 50%, except for five horns Asta and real Lucius after 6 months, whom nobody scales. And no one has fought Julius at his full power.
 
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