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You are right but i don't agree that it is irrelevant. If that's not the case, why name it singularity instead of just black hole?
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Black Clover General Discussion thread
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Epsilon_R
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NOInfinite Speed because it escape from it
Death Thrust didn't even touch the event horizon of it for it to gain a speed rating
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Epsilon's right. Not even anywhere near. (ch256 and 257)Infinite Speed because it escape from it
Cuz it sounds cool. The name is really irrelevant, given that to create a real black hole you have to create a real singularity and vice versa. Is this enough? Do you have any more points you'd like to address?
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I think this is more for him not to repeat exactly the same feat, not to mention that there is already a spell called black hole that is Yami's and for some reason Tabata never repeated the name of spells during The work
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What?? No Character has survived the being at the center or even the event horizon of Dante's black hole.
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What? The black hole wasn't even near the attack. Death Thrust was specifically made to blitz Dante before he used it.
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I was wondering, isn't it kind of wrong to assume that Lucifero can also create a gravitational singularity? He as a demon has no grimoire and gravitational singularity is a spell that is needed a grimoire to use
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He can just get it by possessing someone with a grimoire or stealing a grimoire I guess. However i think it’s possible for Supreme Devils to be able to use spells without a grimoire like Megicula and the Twins so I guess he just doesn’t use them in character.
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One small thing.You can use basic spells without grimoires, just not advanced ones since they require a grimoire. Early on in the series we learned that open grimoire indicates active casting Since grimoires are connected to the soul, any mage controlling such soul should be able to use their grimoire by proxy. When Megicula casted decaying world & unbound slave Vanica's grimoire was open despite Vanica herself being "comatose" from the earlier attack 100% percent think Megicula was using Vanica's grimoire.
Also the twins who were grimoireless, and and the other devils never used any named spells (unlike Megicula) The twins just combined their raw attributes together (which is still a spell) but the spell had no name. "freezing sun" is just the name of the chapter, but name of the actual spell. Devils just have so much magic power than they fight head to head with skilled grimoire users since they never seem to run out of power (they just throw their power around instead of being skillfull with it like humans)
But there are other precedents for using advanced spells without grimoires, such as Licht ect. I don't think it's much of a power thing, but more of a skill thing. Also Dante used his grimoire to cast PoTDK, while Lucifero passively had his passive gravity activated without a grimoire, so you could definitely argue nuances exist.
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Xinsignia1
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I agree with you but this is definitely not one or a small thing
Lmao my bad fam, but you get the idea. Also congrats on the latest string of BC CRTs, super nice.
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What in the goddamn-
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The magic comes from Lucifero, the spell clearly comes from a Grimoire I think that Luciferus being able to launch the gravitational singularity is very speculative and lacking in evidence, considering what Xinsignia1 spoke
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If the magic comes from Lucifero, so do the spells. Hence why Morris, after only recently becoming Lucifero's host, could use Presence of the Demon King
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Yes, but the Demon King's presence isn't exactly a spell.
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WHO HAS SEEN THE SPOILERS
THE RAWEST DOUBLE SPREAD EVER
THE RAWEST DOUBLE SPREAD EVER
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The Black Bulls vs Damnatio. It’s insane. Having followed the series up to this point, the last page is the rawest panel I’ve ever seen
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I was remembering some chapters and realized that it wasn't right for demonic heart users to have low godly regeneration?Whereas hearts pretty much do the soul's function as a source and can also replace a soul
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Low-Godly: The ability to regenerate from the complete physical destruction of the user's body, instead restoring it from their disembodied consciousness, whether that be their soul, mind, some other non-physical aspect of themself, esoteric or metaphysical energy, or something else.
Low godly is not about just restoring one's body from a source that "can also replace a soul" it has to be the soul, mind or some other non-physical aspect. If the hearts aren't non-physical then it won't count.
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There is a possibility that the hearts are not physical as well since nothing and no one other than Lucius and Asta who have soul manipulation in their profile have been shown to interact with the demonic heart.
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Zenon should have resistance or immunity to soul manipulation because of changing his soul for the devil's heart
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I actually think he should have full soul manipulation, I remember somewhere where he is quoted as being able to cut any source or something like that I'll look into this later and also the last arcor shows that the anti magic blows are going at the soul level as they are able to take away Lili's mind manipulation that was written in her soul
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I think I’ll agree more if you said it’s cuz he gave his soul to belzeebub. But meh.
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Tbh I can get behind this since he literally gave up his soul to Beelzebub
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We had a Lighspeed downgrade but still have Massively FTL+ on most profiles since everyone upscales from Mereoleona anyway
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This will be addressed eventuallyWe had a Lighspeed downgrade but still have Massively FTL+ on most profiles since everyone upscales from Mereoleona anyway
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Even if we stopped the Magna to Dante upscaling (which I think is kind of faulty anyway) we'd still be FTL+ ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Smh
Why do you all make the speed so damn personal.
This is not about how high can we go nor is it how low we believe it should be.
It's about what is logically accurate at the end of the day.
Why do you all make the speed so damn personal.
This is not about how high can we go nor is it how low we believe it should be.
It's about what is logically accurate at the end of the day.
