Black Clover downgrade

[Epsilon_R]

Because there is no justification for why he is specifically using the speed of light at this moment, and there are contradictions. And as I am saying in other comments, he can use magic without the need for spells

You still haven't answered my question though, what's the point of using Magic other the light movement spell here?

You admitted he was using magic, right? If you're still saying it's not the movement spell despite how blatant it is, then prove that this is a magic other than the light movement spell

He used magic, but he didn't use a spell.

And what's the point of Patry doing that?

Magic and spells are different things that complement each other. A person can use magic without spells, it is a logical reasoning. I literally showed you an example where a character is able to use magic in many ways without using spells. You are not explaining anything

That's still doesn't change anything to what I said. How does this disprove Patry using Light Magic here?

In this case it seems to be only at the beginning of the movement, because afterwards there is no light

Wrong. The "afterwards" you are talking about is when he stopped using it.

No aura in scan

Raia is literally glowing, we can even see Yami's robe being illuminated

In this case the aura of light is natural, even when they are doing nothing the aura of light exists. This is irrelevant

Seriously? The first panel took place way before he gained that glowing Aura, so you're wrong. As for the second one, we literally see a large trail of light behind Raia when he moves with the movement spell, the same Patry has in the calc.

 

[joshpiece]

You admitted he was using magic, right? If you're still saying it's not the movement spell despite how blatant it is, then prove that this is a magic other than the light movement spell

You have to prove he was using it.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

So ... Are we really going to continue this discussion here?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

So ... Are we really going to continue this discussion here?

It's getting no where also...

 

[Epsilon_R]

Patry without using light magic and the elves: No trail
Patry using Light Magic: Trail

 

[Epsilon_R]

You have to prove he was using it.

And guess what, I did

He even admitted he was using magic but that it wasn't the movement spell. It's up to him to prove that patry would use another magic in this context

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Apparently the main basis in all profiles are onomatopoeia

An extremely solid base

 

[Epsilon_R]

Apparently the main basis in all profiles are onomatopoeia

An extremely solid base

Extremely solid base amirite?

That's exactly those same onomatopoeias that helped the OP to prove that Patry was only moving at lightspeed with a movement spell and nothing else in a previous crt

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Honestly, I don't understand anything here

First was about mathematical issues

then it was contextual issues in the Yami vs. Lixht fight

And third was about 2 other calculations

This should definitely be closed to start another thread

 

[USklaverei]

If the calcs have issues you should have made a calc forum thread with the listed calcs as opposed to this I’d say.

I will do that, the post has been totally distorted.

 

[USklaverei]

But first, I will mention why the calculation of Rades is totally wrong.
In fact Patry could be moving at the speed of light there, but, this is strange for two reasons:

1. It takes too long
2. When Lumiere uses the light magic spell to move at such a speed, he arrives at the realm on the same panel.

But this is not the main thing, but that the distance found in the calculation is completely wrong, this is when Patry left and if we calculate this, it would give a MUCH BIGGER result than found in the calculation, with the panel on which he calculated, Patry it was even more distant.

 

[KingTempest]

Am. you're clearly being bias . You probably hate bc for having higher AP and speed than your favorite verse lol

Let this be a warning.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Let this be a warning.

Um I don't think there needs to be a warning since I don't think that's what's happening... It could be also the other way around...

 

[Worthless]

Just stating one of the possibilities why he being bs to BC. But whatever, j just hate how he's so obvious being bs to the verse. (i just saw something no wonder lol)

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Just stating one of the possibilities why he being bs to BC. But whatever, j just hate how he's so obvious being bs to the verse.

He did not say that... While he did say he is bias what he has shown and done isn't fully bs this could be said to the other's as well

 

[Worthless]

He did not say that... While he did say he is bias what he has shown and done isn't fully bs this could be said to the other's as well.

Maybe so. 7-A BC. But Whatever man. How do i stop seeing quoting here in this thread?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Maybe so. 7-A BC. But Whatever man. How do i stop seeing quoting here in this thread?

I don't fully knows what he means by saying that but all his other comments have made sense but bye ✌

 

[Worthless]

I want to say something about that. But yeah bye

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

@Worthless, I am not in favor of a downgrade because I don't like the verse, I literally tried to create an upgrade to High 6-B. Simply changed my mind about the power of verse

And yes, BC 7-A (Actually High 7-A). If the quote about "300 kilometers" is what I am imagining I will try to downgrade the verse. Why? Because I think it is wrong

 

[Dragoonseraphim]

@Worthless, I am not in favor of a downgrade because I don't like the verse, I literally tried to create an upgrade to High 6-B. Simply changed my mind about the power of verse

And yes, BC 7-A (Actually High 7-A). If the quote about "300 kilometers" is what I am imagining I will try to downgrade the verse. Why? Because I think it is wrong

Wait are we even currently using that calc?

 

[Steve_Rogers1]

Wait are we even currently using that calc?

No. We're scaling from a guidebook statement for Salamander that goes something this "A swipe of its talons can dry up a sea."

Source: Volume 16.5

 

[Dragoonseraphim]

That’s what I thought. That calc has no relevance to our current scaling.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

No, currently we use a sentence from the databook. What is wrong, I even test this logic in another verse to see the result.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Also, if we consider Fana's sentence to evaporate an ocean, why is her range not Hundreds of kilometers?

 

[USklaverei]

No. We're scaling from a guidebook statement for Salamander that goes something this "A swipe of its talons can dry up a sea."

Source: Volume 16.5

As far as I know, this is a catchphrase and it seems very hyperbole, could you provide me with the scan with the translation?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

EDIT: I forgot to get the translation...

EDIT2: "flames burns the sea"

 

[USklaverei]

Is the phrase bold?

 

[USklaverei]

Could someone close this? I will open another topic for the calculation group discussion

 

[KingTempest]

Requested to be closed