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How do you know. Nothing implied that.
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Black Clover downgrade
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Epsilon_R
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What? He moved in diagonal in light magic, not moving backwards using light magic then to the side with his normal speed
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Based on what is this the noise of Yami's katana? It's more consistent with the manga for it to be the lightspeed movement when the sfx for Yami's katana is always something like "snik," as shown here.
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No, it is evident in the scene that Raia moves in a straight line with the light magic, when the attack hits him, he is completely open in the air and was no longer using the light magic.
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How is this "evident"? No material depicts this.
Epsilon_R
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A diagonal is a straight line, you know that right...?
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I don't have to read another thread. Show me prove and scans on why the attacks aren't light speed.
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He can very much move diagonally with Light Magic. That's still a straight line.
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I know that, but I talk about Ray's movement, note that in his lines of movement, he is moving his arm and head to the side trying not to hit Yami's attack, he was no longer using the magic of light.
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No, his example doesn't work because Patry is going in one direction with his whole body, in the case of Raia, he's moving his head and arm to try to avoid this, with the magic of light, the whole body moves together.
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Based on what? For now you have not shown anything useful
Mh
And again, the anime shows that Raia did not use the ability to dodge
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What the anime shows shouldnt even be relevant I guess
And again, the anime shows that he did not use the ability to dodge
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No, again, it is totally different, in the case of Patri, he is moving his entire body over there going to Yami, Raia is moving his head and arm to try to get out of reach, his other members are not moving equally.
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Notice how there are two sound effects, and they happen to be color coded for each person. Yami's "skash" and Patry's "flash." That example doesn't prove your point.
And again, the anime shows that Raia did not use the ability to dodge
Also, the anime is a secondary canon, so why take that over the primary canon that is the manga?
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Yes, the sfx but I guess you can't understand for some reason
Is this supposed to prove your point?Mh
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He was trying to show that his Light Magic had a different sfx, but that was Yami's attack. The "flash" was for Patry, which I pointed out.
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"Skashh"
Again
Because there is still no proof that the character used a movement at the speed of light, only an onomatopoeia that can easily be used with Yami's katana. The only reason so far not to use the anime is "Oh, the anime production sucks".
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Oh okay. But if anything, the proves our point lmao
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No, its because its not main canon.
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So prepare a revision for a lot of site calculations
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Because Patry was hit by the attack? Patry was unable to move (thanks to Black Hole). Don't use examples that only prove the opposing side's point.
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If contradictory information happens between two canons, we use the primary canon, which is the manga in this case. That's common knowledge.
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if they commit these errors that's not my fault, if Anime was main canon, Saitama would be 5-B, the fact that the Manga is the main canon (most of times) make it the most reliable source, anime is just adaptation
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That proves our point. Yami's sfx is "Skash", not "Flash/Fwash"
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Then go ahead, show one instance of Yami's sfx being Flash when Patry or Raia aren't using magic. I'll wait..
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What are the main arguments for now?
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Yami not being able to react to Lightspeed attacks
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The thread has already been totally distorted, since that was not the main thing, I will do a topic later, a member of the team agreed with the topic, I will wait a little longer.
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Patry was unable to move because Black Hole paralyzed him, and then Yami hit him with Dark-Cloaked Black Blade. The sound effect came from Yami's attack, plain and simple.
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But this is exactly what I want to prove
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What are the arguments here?
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I'm going to sleep as well but to make a temporary tl;dr:
- The first calc can still be used
- The arguments about Yami not Dodging light magic are irrelevant as he doesn't have FTL travel not combat speed
- The arguments about Yami getting blitzed by Light Magic are shaky.
- The first calc can still be used
- The arguments about Yami not Dodging light magic are irrelevant as he doesn't have FTL travel not combat speed
- The arguments about Yami getting blitzed by Light Magic are shaky.
- The only time Yami was surprised by the speed was when he was exhausted against an opponent he wasn't expecting to have the same speed at the previous one.
- All the other times, he was unfazed by the speed of light magic.
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No, the first calculation cannot be used, simply because you use the pixels in the calculation to find the distance that Patry moved to avoid Yami's attack with the light magic.
Aren't they irrelevant, now you need to have FTL travel speed to avoid a 3 meter diameter SOL attack? How long will you try to distort the thing?
Anyway, we have quotes and deeds of Yami failing to react to the speed of light and making it clear that it is something above him.
Aren't they irrelevant, now you need to have FTL travel speed to avoid a 3 meter diameter SOL attack? How long will you try to distort the thing?
Anyway, we have quotes and deeds of Yami failing to react to the speed of light and making it clear that it is something above him.
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I made a little tldr of the 2 main argument so far. One about Yami not being able to hits Patry when he moves at SoL, which doesn't matter since he only has FTL Reactions, nothing else. The other is Yami being blitzed by light speed Raia
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So, what? There's nothing wrong with this.
1- It was way more than 3 meters
2- That statement is barely reliable
We have no quotes of Yami not being able to react to SoL...
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I am leaning towards agreeing with Epsilon and DragonGamer
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