Bill's Rematches: Bill Cipher vs. The Anti-Spiral

[Darkmon_cns]

Then how do tell. How do fights with his low 2-C form work? At all?

 

[DMUA]

Low 2-C is just one of the Anti-Spiral's mechs.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Low 2-C is just one of the Anti-Spiral's mechs.

If that was so then the argument that bill would use his unrestricted power that is 2-A because he feels threatened would also work :/

He can't just switch mechs because bill got close to his type 8 relent object.

 

[DMUA]

Full power bill is 2-A so

Make a content revision.

The type 8 relies on a planet under the defense of a 2-B, and it can't just be restricted.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

When do we consider the police in standard battle assumeions? You don't assume another character intervenes in a vs thread

 

[DMUA]

It's the same character, just different parts.


You can't get past type 8 without busting the Anti-Spiral Planet, and you can't bust the planet without going through a 2-B.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

It's the same character, just different parts.


You can't get past type 8 without busting the Anti-Spiral Planet, and you can't bust the planet without going through a 2-B.

Which CAN'T BE THERE. He can't have other parts of himself fighting in this. Only the low 2-C part is allowed. It's the same thing as saying you can't destroy bill without overcoming his true power therefor he needs to be 2-A it's stupid.

 

[DMB_1]

Anit's Immortality won't get restricted. It's not AP.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It's the same thing as saying you can't destroy bill without overcoming his true power therefor he needs to be 2-A it's stupid

By your logic type 9 immortality shouldn't ever be possible to use, which is wrong

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Anit's Immortality won't get restricted. It's not AP.

Claiming that The object he is reliant on is defended by a 2-B and there for if bill gets too colse to it he is destroy very much so is.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No. Saying that is completly true.


To kill Scp-682 for good you nedd to kill a 2-A and a 1-B character.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

It's the same thing as saying you can't destroy bill without overcoming his true power therefor he needs to be 2-A it's stupid

By your logic type 9 immortality shouldn't ever be possible to use, which is wrong

That's what 9 is and it says so on the profile. His low 2-C stats say nothing About needing to kill his 2-B self to destroy the planet.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

So? It does not eny the fact either.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

So? It does not eny the fact either.

You seem to misunderstand that it should say that if it were to be taken as so in a vs thread.

 

[DMB_1]

He still has type 8 reliant on a 2-B.

 

[DMUA]

Just because he sent out Grandanboza or however it's spelled doesn't mean it's true self will just sit on it's rear end as Bill aims an atomization finger at his homework.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Just because he sent out Grandanboza or however it's spelled doesn't mean it's true self will just sit on it's rear end as Bill aims an atomization finger at his homework.

Yes it will. The exact same way bill's true power is a doing just that to throughout this entire fight.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

He still has type 8 reliant on a 2-B.

No it's reliant on a planet he claims is a guarded by a 2-B and there for would intervene in the fight if he got close.

 

[DMUA]

Frankly Bill's True Power isn't a thing from my understanding. He's either a threat to the Multiverse or he's not, It should be "At Least Low 2-C, likely 2-A" Or just straight up 2-A.


Either way, the 2-B Anti Spiral isn't fighting but also isn't going to just let stuff blow up it's planet.


To use your example, it's like a street leveler being allowed to just break into a police station and get some high caliber weapons, without expecting the police to stop him.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Yes he is going to let that happen because he has no intervention For all intensive purposes he doesn't exist in the versus debate.l because he's not involved and the OP didn't mention him.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Pretty sure at this point it's almost certainly inconclusive

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Darkmon. If that were the case, Kharn wouldn't be the anti-Meta hax nuller that he is because Khorne couldn't intervene.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

@Darkmon. If that were the case, Kharn wouldn't be the anti-Meta hax nuller that he is because Khorne couldn't intervene.

Why on earth would he be allowed to? It doesn't say so on the profile. I don't know who Kharn or Khorne. I reffer to the anti spiral's other key

 

[DMUA]

@Darkmon. If that were the case, Kharn wouldn't be the anti-Meta hax nuller that he is because Khorne couldn't intervene.

thank the bloody stars

Except this is the equivalent of saying that Khorne would just sit on his rear end while someone goes to oblitherate the concept of war so they could fight Kharn with hax.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

@Darkmon. If that were the case, Kharn wouldn't be the anti-Meta hax nuller that he is because Khorne couldn't intervene.

thank the bloody stars
Except this is the equivalent of saying that Khorne would just sit on his rear end while someone goes to oblitherate the concept of war so they could fight Kharn with hax.

And I suppose vegeta wouldn't sit on his butt well someone tryed to kill goku before he beats him? Even if it's in character for someone to intervene if we accept that there would be character interventions all over the place.

 

[DMUA]

You see, Vegeta isn't apart of Goku's powerset, while Type 8 Reliant on something Guarded by a 2-B and Powernull with a High 1-B both are things of Anti Spiral and Kharn's respectively.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Inconclusive fra

 

[Darkmon_cns]

You see, Vegeta isn't apart of Goku's powerset, while Type 8 Reliant on something Guarded by a 2-B and Powernull with a High 1-B both are things of Anti Spiral and Kharn's respectively.

No its guarded by himself He is not currently in that form. If he could be in more than one form at a time he should have duplication.

 

[DMUA]

I'm pretty sure he has construction, and all Granzanboza is is a construction, a giant flippin mech. The Anti Spiral can still sit on his planet while it's fighting.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

I'm pretty sure he has construction, and all Granzanboza is is a construction, a giant flippin mech. The Anti Spiral can still sit on his planet while it's fighting.

He dose not I looked at his page. Furthermore if he is only fighting this Mech and Not the anti spiral itself then it's immorality should not matter. As the mech dose not have it it's user dose and his low 2-C key is only labeled with the meck alone.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Incon FRA

So Inconclusive has 5 votes

 

[Phoenix821]

Inconclusive FRA

 

[TheArsenal1212]

6-0 Incon

 

[Darkmon_cns]

6-0 Inco

Given this confusing thing I had not incountered before I will vote for inconlusive as well.even if bill can't keep him down he can't keep bill down.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

7-0 Incon since the votes reset

This can be added

 

[Elizhaa]

When do we consider the police in standard battle assumeions? You don't assume another character intervenes in a vs thread

 

[Elizhaa]

It's the same character, just different parts.


You can't get past type 8 without busting the Anti-Spiral Planet, and you can't bust the planet without going through a 2-B.

That's not how it work, if the Anti-Spiral Planet is destroyed, then he would no longer have type 8 immortality.

It's not like type 9 immortality.

 

[DMUA]

That's not how it work, if the Anti-Spiral Planet is destroyed, then he would no longer have type 8 immortality.

So... they live so long as the Anti Spiral Planet exists, IE, Type 8? Being destructible doesn't change that.

When do we consider the police in standard battle assumeions? You don't assume another character intervenes in a vs thread

Well if someone is going to just outright attack the police like Bill might attack the Spiral Homeworld, I'd say their involvement is justified.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Can someone add this please? It's 7 for Incon and no votes for either. Even if Nedge voted Bill it's still Incon.

 

[DMUA]

Put it on the addtions thread.


Or maybe cal can get off his rear end, either works.