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So you're saying the cosmology is 3D? Is this what you're saying?
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Bill Cipher vs Yan Sen | 9-0–1 (Grace done, at this point idek)
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You can report them for derailment now, TBH
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No I'm saying these haxes are 3D
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- Manipulates the whole cosmology to remove all the laws from the multiverse
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Bill seems to be losing because he is affected by the Conceptual Aura.
I think let's forget about that and get back to the point.
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Tbh, it seems to be only fear hax, which shouldn't work on Bill given to his mind not only being nonexistent, but also being unfamiliar with stuff like pain.
This is like arguing that you can "conceptually soul hax" someone who has no soul to manipulate to begin with, which is, you know, meh.
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not only frighten them, but also subdue and immobilize them.
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Immobilize from fear, which isn't exactly helpful tbh.
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It's not just fear, it exerts power over them with its aura.
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Why are you lying to me?
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Yes, crushing them with fear, not other factors.
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If the whole cosmology is affected by this then yes you can get 5d physics manipulation, but you already have Yan-sen aca 4 and aca4 neg.
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And?
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It is very clear that it not only frightens them, it suppresses them with a force.
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Having aca4 and aca4 neg will be enough to get rid of this.
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The profile says it does through fear.
Plus the images seem to be just exaggerating on their feeling of fear, many asian works do this kind of visuals after all.
So you're going to say that his hax is all 3D without refuting my points on why it's way above that?
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if he manipulates the entire cosmology 5d physics manip hax can win
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All of his hax is linked to the Weirdmageddon, due to his powers being powered from that, other than him using the Weirdmageddon to manipulate the cosmology other than other hax.
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Even so, Yan-sen is unaffected
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You're the one who has to prove that this is for every hax
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There's the profile, I've linked the evidence, and your only counter is literally a "no it's not" without elaborating.
I am not going to expand on something I've already proved, you're just stonewalling at this point.
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I'm having a hard time understanding you, you need to tell me which 5d haxs you have so I can examine them, you're already distorting them.
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I said all of them, I don't need to list everyone of them.
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ShionAH
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Didnt he do that pressure with a hand gesture?
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Interesting. Though Bill as pointed above can petrify with light (I checked and Ford was still covered with the red light when he was petrified), so that helps.
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Bill can also just turn intagible right?
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He did in that scene, yes, but it's more akin to him "concentrating" his aura over the monster rather than needing the hand gesture.
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I don't think it would help, Yan Sen can interact/cut consciousness which, obviously, is intangible.
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Bill is NEP 3 when he's incorporeal.
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Well we dont know if his Aura/Pressure can affect the intangible
Anyways if Yan Sen gets AE 1 he stomps, if he does not then I think Bill just wins this
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Fair point, it would need a little extrapolation to assume this.
Idk what AE 1 entails, so I can't say much on this.
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Bill could still win through nuking the cosmology methinks.
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already ae1 because it is a conceptual character
Putting that aside, what matters here is who takes the first kick.
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YanSen will not be affected. he can live outside the whole cosmology.
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isnt that only if he goes into his mindscape form
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That doesn't mean that it's relevant to durability, I am not Tier 8 for going outside homes.
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Yeah I am saying if its get added to the profile
What does Yan Sen start with? Whats his most frequent ability against enemies
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Can't Yan Sen go outside of it through teleportation and destroy it from the outside?
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