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Since we discussed this further in DMs, I'll leave it at this since it'd need a site-wide revision it seemsNasuverse also does lmao.
Digimon has it due to them being Higher-D regardless of their evolutionary state thanks to their physiology, but range between Tier 8 and Tier 1. Don't see how GF is any different.
For you. But for the verse it would, and I am not backing down because of someone deciding that's not right despite the wiki doing this from years.
Bad practice indeed, but won't invalidate tiering. Dragon Ball literally jumps through infinities with finite amps, yet none bats an eye.
But it is estabilished to work as such from the Brane cosmology. The beings within it are just arbitrairly excluded, as otherwise the Earth has High 1-C dura.
1-B has to be due to the NR needing to be superior to the High 1-C realm as it follows branes. If you'd agree with Low 1-C, you'd have to agree with also 1-B as it follows the same logic, as already said.At the bare minimum I can agree with Low 1-C, I accept High 1-C but 1-B should be a possibly imo
If we accept the 11D stuff as High 1-C, those dimensions are part of the multiverse, so NR should be 1-B for being a higher plane compared to the multiverse.At the bare minimum I can agree with Low 1-C, I accept High 1-C but 1-B should be a possibly imo
Don't make me put u in ur place.No I'm talking logically and then gave an example of this kind of logic being accepted on-site. Like how can they be extending across compactified dimensions without those dimensions actually being compactified?
This is just the beginning, I'm sure this will go on even longerAlso tf. 3 pages???
Dragon Ball CRTs reach 5 in less time than this.Also tf. 3 pages???
Truth. Even if it's a small revision, it still takes 30 million years.Dragon Ball CRTs reach 5 in less time than this.
You'll tryDon't make me put u in ur place.
Also tf. 3 pages???
I know right, this CRT is slow, I thought it would already get 6-7Also tf. 3 pages???
What's the argument for these 11 dimensions scaling to the base multiverse or otherwise being encompassed by the Nightmare Realm? Can't they be layers above it?
- Bill has to be straight up 2-A at bare minimum due to the Weirdmageddon explicilty affecting the multiverse.
- Nightmare Realm is either:
- Low 1-C due to it referencing branes, being called a higher plane that's infinitely sized, and encompassing infinite universes within itself.
- 1-B due to it being above 11 spatial dimensions that have to be more relevant and complex than the lower ones.
- Bill downscaling from the NR.
From what I saw in the scan Ford asks himself why he abandoned 5D calculus learning, so I think it would need at least such level, as we don’t actually know if they limited to just that.@StrymULTRA
Considering the CRT itself mentions that the NR can be acessed through 5D calcs, wouldn't this count as an anti-feat for the 12D rating?
It only is required to create the portal, not that's the hard cap of the dimensionality of the place. Ford didn't put all the specifics of it, given that we're entering into pseudo-science otherwise, but yeah.Considering the CRT itself mentions that the NR can be acessed through 5D calcs, wouldn't this count as an anti-feat for the 12D rating?
They cannot as it's implied that the beings are part of the Multiverse due to them accessing to the Earth normally and Ford using dimensions for both Spatial dimensions and Parallel universes.What's the argument for these 11 dimensions scaling to the base multiverse or otherwise being encompassed by the Nightmare Realm? Can't they be above it?
God damn, kinda uncalled forSorry if I am handling the verse better than your Ben 10 wankfest.
Ford explicitly stated these 7-11 dimensional creatures come from his travels (which in this context refers to him using the nightmare realm to travel to different universes iirc including those with dimensionality different from the regular 3 dimensions)I need to ask for minor clarification in one regard (sorry if I missed something, I just skimmed through the OP).
What's the argument for these 11 dimensions scaling to the base multiverse or otherwise being encompassed by the Nightmare Realm? Can't they be layers above it?
RightFord explicitly stated these 7-11 dimensional creatures come from his travels (which in this context refers to him using the nightmare realm to travel to different universes iirc including those with dimensionality different from the regular 3 dimensions)
I see, thanks for the answerIt only is required to create the portal, not that's the hard cap of the dimensionality of the place. Ford didn't put all the specifics of it, given that we're entering into pseudo-science otherwise, but yeah.
Plus I forgot to mention that if you read the page, Ford only complains about him not learning about it at the time, so that's not exactly a counter tbh
LmfaoRight
"In my long, dimension-hopping life"
Wasted a wall of text smh.
Ik, I’m just that peak. If you need me to give simple but logical responses I’m your guyStrym´s answer / Farquaad´s answer:
I saw it too, yes.Bill VS Discord
“No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness.” - Aristotle Bill Cipher, the Nightmare Realm’s Dream Demon from Gravity Fa...g12dbfg.blogspot.com
I’m on phone so I can’t really send the argument by hand but I recall this blog had some arguments for quantitative superiority in GF for those dimensions
Right.Ik, I’m just that peak. If you need me to give simple but logical responses I’m your gay
Tbh we should have handled this before the thread was even postedBill VS Discord
“No great mind has ever existed without a touch of madness.” - Aristotle Bill Cipher, the Nightmare Realm’s Dream Demon from Gravity Fa...g12dbfg.blogspot.com
I’m on phone so I can’t really send the argument by hand but I recall this blog had some arguments for quantitative superiority in GF for those dimensions
Reiner I knowI’m a twink femboy
We should have actually waited till July nglTbh we should have handled this before the thread was even posted
I´ve even created a general discussion for Gravity falls some time ago
What if a 2D universe is stated to have 0 width and that width does not exist to them multiple times, would that prove quantitative superiority between dimensions inverseIt actually does not. In M-Theory with Bulk Space it's a 4th Dimensional Space with 7-Dimensional strings that make it 11th Dimensional.
So something being bulk Space does not make every dimension higher bulk spaces. They can also be singular string dimensions. For the thread Low 1-C looks alright, 11-D doesn't have enough substa
Even if the 11D stuff is part of the multiverse that's encompassed from the NR, which is the Bulk?So something being bulk Space does not make every dimension higher bulk spaces. They can also be singular string dimensions. For the thread Low 1-C looks alright, 11-D doesn't have enough substa
The same situation would apply. It would be 4D + 7D Strings encompassed in a 5D bulk.Even if the 11D stuff is part of the multiverse that's encompassed from the NR, which is the Bulk?
Just to note, being unable to control Tier 1 structure does not mean character can’t affect it in other ways. There are characters that can destroy universes, but not control them, recreate them or stop their destruction.Then there's this piece of evidence that everyone seems to forget, that is the entire catalyst to Bill's plans:
Bill cannot stop the Nightmare Realm from self destructing. That entire plane is destined to be destroyed with or without him, and the whole reason he wants to go to other realities is to escape it. It just doesn't make any sense for Bill to scale to the NR anyways, since he explicitly cannot affect it in its entirety. He isn't really even affecting it at all, since the same page heavily implies the reason that Gravity Falls' universe is in danger is solely because of the NR's lack of physics and instability flooding our reality, rather than any AP from Bill's end.
Even if we ignore everything related to Low 1-C and higher, why 2-A should not be solidified due to the events in comics?IMO I disagree with OP, Bill should just stay where he is