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"If your rip in this dimension continues..."
Time Baby is obviously referring to the rip created from the rift shattering.
Time Baby is obviously referring to the rip created from the rift shattering.
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Not really? That seems more of a coincidence in wording.ShadowWarrior1999 said:"If your rip in this dimension continues..."
Time Baby is obviously referring to the rip created from the rift shattering.
Just to clarify, TB did mentioned the rip could have destroy the very fabric of existence.Dargoo Faust said:Not really? That seems more of a coincidence in wording.ShadowWarrior1999 said:"If your rip in this dimension continues..."
Time Baby is obviously referring to the rip created from the rift shattering.
He could have just been referring to Bill's influence on the dimension in general.
As I've said the rift shattering was only a means by which Bill entered reality, I fail to see conclusive evidence on it destroying reality and not him, when much of his statements suggest otherwise.
For one, I don't recall the interdimensional rift ever being referring to as a rip.HammerStrikes219 said:Just to clarify, TB did mentioned the rip could have destroy the very fabric of existence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx2XvcvqzzU
Here is the video regarding TB's statement.
At the same time, where did the rip came from? It couldn't be coming from Bill given he was with TB at the time prior to TB's defeat by his hands. In additonal to that, we don't even know if the rip was geninuely created by Bill Ciper given the evidence is actually going against him creating the rip as it could have come from destroying the container that contains the rift.Dargoo Faust said:For one, I don't recall the interdimensional rift ever being referring to as a rip.HammerStrikes219 said:Just to clarify, TB did mentioned the rip could have destroy the very fabric of existence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx2XvcvqzzU
Here is the video regarding TB's statement.
Maintaining the rip by his own power though doesn't necessarily translate to AP, but rather hax depending on the case and context. Also is there evidence that implies or at least shown this is the case (regarding the maintaining the rip part by Bill Cipher)?Ricsi-viragosi said:The plot makes it pretty clear that the portal making the whole floating substance that Mabel gave him was the reason the rip was made. It allowed Bill and co to come in from the rip, which is also why Bill was constantly getting stronger.
He still mantaing the rip of his own power once it appeared tough.
Hax is for bypassed durabilties; AP feat doesn't not. Besides, destroying the Universe would be an Attack Potency feat from Tiering System.HammerStrikes219 said:Maintaining the rip by his own power though doesn't necessarily translate to AP, but rather hax depending on the case and context. Also is there evidence that implies or at least shown this is the case (regarding the maintaining the rip part by Bill Cipher)?Ricsi-viragosi said:The plot makes it pretty clear that the portal making the whole floating substance that Mabel gave him was the reason the rip was made. It allowed Bill and co to come in from the rip, which is also why Bill was constantly getting stronger.
He still mantaing the rip of his own power once it appeared tough.
Although the evidence for the downgrade does seem quite compelling though given it seems to not been leaning to keeping Bill Cipher's Low 2C rating if it does goes through. Also if it is consistent or not given there is only one debatable instance with a statement mentioning how Bill Cipher is a threat to the multiverse apparently.Sadistic Sleuth said:I'm not in the mood rn to debate atm, but I'm still against this downgrade
Except one thing though, in this case, the rip wasn't even caused by Bill Cipher, but another character who was tricked to give the container with the rift to Bill while Bill Cipher was in disguise and isn't exactly shown to be used in combat.Elizhaa said:snip
It is not really a chain reaction so he likely power it up. Likewsie, all the change were reverted once Bill was erased as stated by Ford which I linked above.Paul Frank said:The rip itself doesn't even destroy the universe
So even if Bill made the rip he caused a chain reaction through hax which is not ap
It's something Bill is responsible for and causing, but it's not scaleable to his actual Attack Potency. A chain reaction would stop in some instances if the main thing behind the force was stopped before it could take full effect. I agree Bill should be Low 2-C with his rip, but only 5-B physically because he does it through the rip obviously and his defeat meant the destruction of the universe couldn't happen.Elizhaa said:It is not really a chain reaction so he likely power it up. Likewsie, all the change were reverted once Bill was erased as stated by Ford which I linked above.
If it were a chain reaction, no changes would be revert from Bill's defeated.
^Sadistic Sleuth said:
Likewise, PabloLouisTheII has been giving reasoning to the contrary.JooCipher said:Elizhaa has given enough evidence for Low 2-C Bill imo
Wasn't it rewriting reality rather than destroying reality for those statements? Any official sources will do. Also burden of proofSadistic Sleuth said:@Paul
Last time I checked, Bill had many other reality destroying statements to back that one up.
Your "I want to destroy the world because I say so" doesn't.
You do realized it was the rip doing that right? You were the one who claimed that Billy has many reality destroying statements which need proof.Sadistic Sleuth said:What in that scan suggest Bill was rewriting rather than destroying?
So that is one statement, but what about the other ones?JooCipher said:Stanford said that Bill wanted to destroy reality itself
scan: https://br.pinterest.com/pin/379287599865957964/
Which should scale to Bill's power as again; all the changes made were reversed once Bill was destroyed as stated by Ford as linked above. Even the other portal never had such an effect once they stop.HammerStrikes219 said:You do realized it was the rip doing that right? You were the one who claimed that Billy has many reality destroying statements which need proof.Sadistic Sleuth said:What in that scan suggest Bill was rewriting rather than destroying?