Bijuu Bomb Downgrade

[Reio35]

Bijuu bombs are currently accepted as vaporization using this Calc. In order to get vaporization their has to no remains of matter during the after math of the explosion.


"Vaporisation: Applied when the matter that was destroyed was vaporised during the attack. Much like for Pulverization, we usually use this value when we see no remains of the matter that was destroyed in the attack, but in addition there has to be a considerable amount of visible vapor and/or character statements that imply vaporization, usually the latter. The value is 25700 (J/cc)."

Which isn't the case we clearly see dust and fragments after the biju bombs exploded not only naruto says Bijuu bombs pulverize

So the clac should be replaced with pulverizion instead of vaporization

 

[Kachon123]

I strongly disagree. Not only do we see vapor rising from the crater, but the scan that you sent doesn't even show any fragments in the crater.

 

[Nierre]

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Bijuu bombs are currently accepted as vaporization using this Calc. In order to get vaporization their has to no remains of matter during the after math of the explosion.


"Vaporisation: Applied when the matter that was destroyed was vaporised during the attack. Much like for Pulverization, we usually use this value when we see no remains of the matter that was destroyed in the attack, but in addition there has to be a considerable amount of visible vapor and/or character statements that imply vaporization, usually the latter. The value is 25700 (J/cc)."

Which isn't the case we clearly see dust and fragments after the biju bombs exploded not only naruto says Bijuu bombs pulverize

So the clac should be replaced with pulverizion instead of vaporization

very simple and reasonable, I agree that it should change

 

[Kachon123]

 

[Deceived3596]

Spoiler

Following, very interesting thread.

 

[Kachon123]

very simple and reasonable

It's literally not lmao. The scans he sent don't even back up his argument.

 

[Tdjwo]

Here we go again

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

It's literally not lmao. The scans he sent don't even back up his argument.

but wasn't that rising dust?

 

[Reio35]

I strongly disagree. Not only do we see vapor rising from the crater, but the scan that you sent doesn't even show any fragments in the crater.

That's dust not vapor and we can still see fragments flying around clearly

 

[Kachon123]

That's dust not vapor and we can still see fragments flying around clearly

What chapter is this from?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

That's dust not vapor and we can still see fragments flying around clearly

not that I'm disagreeing, but could you show the colored version? I think it should actually show if it was dust or not

 

[Reio35]

What chapter is this from?

572

 

[Damage3245]

Much like for Pulverization, we usually use this value when we see no remains of the matter that was destroyed in the attack, but in addition there has to be a considerable amount of visible vapor and/or character statements that imply vaporization, usually the latter.

Just to check, are there any character statements?

Reio posted one for Naruto that indicates pulverization. Are there any for vaporization?

 

[theultimate5105]

The pulverize scan is literally just referring to the fact that Naruto will destroy them not the type of destruction.

pulverize

1. to press or crush something until it becomes powder or a soft mass: 2. to…

dictionary.cambridge.org

the informal definition is what applies here

 

[Kachon123]

Same color as the surrounding clouds, so I disagree.

 

[Kachon123]

Also, Naruto saying he'd pulverize a meteor doesn't mean that he didn't vaporize the area destroyed in order to make the crater.

 

[Deceived3596]

Yeah the "i'm gonna pulverize all of the meteorites" statement doesn't innately denote a type of destruction without further context. It can be used a baseline sure, but if we have contradictory evidence towards that baseline then we should, and can rectify that contradiction through re-analyzing the statement's intention.

It seems like when Naruto says "i'm gonna pulverize all of the meteorites" he's just saying he's going to destroy these meteors with his attack, using pulverize to express that idea of destroying them, not him making a concrete assertion on what type of destruction he's using against those meteors.

So i'm currently leaning towards disagreeing with this thread, could be convinced if more evidence for pulverization is presented.

 

[T2KBaka]

Spoiler

Following, very interesting thread.

Real

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Updating my comment, I think I disagree on, the color manga was introduced and it seems to be on par.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Yeah hard disagree

We clearly see vapor

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Same color as the surrounding clouds, so I disagree.

We see in this scan that the big Bijuudama is kicking up dust as it hits Gyuki. Albeit that Bijuudama never hit the ground, we do see that the dust is the same color as the other rising "clouds" from the other Bijuudama.

Also what everyone else said about the Nard statement, he doesn't have to be speaking turn to dust, it could be just that he's destroying them.

 

[NaruRiasUzumaki]

I'm sorry but so I disagree. What AnimeFreak1 and Kachon said.

 

[Aernasilver]

Imagine letting Reio cook.

Disagree.

 

[Deceived3596]

Imagine not loving Reio's ****.

.

Ay yo what you smacking about blud?

 

[Aernasilver]

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Imagine letting Reio cook.

Disagree.

 

[Godernet]

God damn Reio made this thread and got packed in the 40 minutes I was asleep.

Hard Disagree for the reasons already given.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Bro does Reio have a vendetta against Naruto or something .

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

You know I was expecting say a massive imgur with all the Bjuudama for a case to be made by evaluating them in totality...

 

[Reio35]

I will respond in a bit

 

[Damage3245]

You know I was expecting say a massive imgur with all the Bjuudama for a case to be made by evaluating them in totality...

Some people write essays for their OPs, and some people don't, I guess.

I too would like to see some more evidence.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Bro does Reio have a vendetta against Naruto or something .

He does actually

If it's not Bleach it below City level

 

[Godernet]

You know I was expecting say a massive imgur with all the Bjuudama for a case to be made by evaluating them in totality...

that sounds a bit specific. you cookin up something?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

that sounds a bit specific. you cookin up something?

Not really, busy with Bleach atm

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Not really, busy with Bleach atm

That reminds me

Need to get back to my OPM CRT lmao

Gonna start back up on Monday or Tuesday lol

 

[Kachon123]

Need to get back to my OPM CRT lmao

Gonna start back up on Monday or Tuesday lol

Finally

 

[Godernet]

Not really, busy with Bleach atm

got time to do a calc?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

got time to do a calc?

Depends what it is

 

[Deceived3596]

Definitely something regarding Kirin.

I can feel it in my bones.