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Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) vs Beatrice

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Good point. Pretty sure beyonder can also manipulate both existence and nonexistence, and embodies an entire multiverse that is on a higher level than the rest of Marvel. Changing vote to beyonder.
 
Umineko is currently going through a revision and beatrice will get true-godly regen after the revision so she stomps
 
Not to mention beatrice is like infinity above baseline. Most umineko characters are still under revision (NEVER) and most of them will likely have 1A key which beato can easily defeat.
 
Hulu, how she is above Beholders because at best she look like a baseline 1-A best on her highest feats of transcending the concept of dimensions and time?
 
Oh god...

First, Beatrice AP stomps Beyonder into oblivion and back. She litteraly dwarves him to an infinite degree.

Second, Beatrice DOES have True Godly. It was never updated and will be added later on in the revision.

Third, Umineko is undergoing big revision, so the match is even more pointless.
 
Nedge1000 said:
Hulu, how she is above Beholders because at best she look like a baseline 1-A best on her highest feats of transcending the concept of dimensions and time?
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She trancends the Witches realm and all of its layers. Each Layer trancends the previous one. Trancending the Human realm is already outerversal. Shes an entire cardinal higher then the Beyonder.
 
Nothing and nothing makes Beyonder> Oblivion. I guess being greater than existence make you greater than nonexistence beyond existece too LMFAO
 
witches by nature are 1-A, for witches the human are simple pieces of game board however a witch from a higher plane of existence sees the witch from a lower plane in the same way she sees a piece of game board, in other words the difference of a witch from a higher plane to one of a lower plane is the same as a dimensional object and a non-dimensional object (literally immeasurably higher), an example of this is when Ange is also an Endless witch tries to compare herself with Beatrice but Beatrice explains making a dimensional analogy that because Ange is a simple piece the difference between them was not only infinite as it did not even exist. And in the cosmology of verse there is an infinite hierarchy of witches having the witches of the senate as bernkastel, lambdadelta (and perhaps Erika) at the top of the hierarchy Beatrice when it was Sayu transcended her spirit and was approaching plane of existence as lambdadelta
 
What Zero said. Being a Witch (and thus trancending the human realm) makes you baseline at bare minimum, every Layer being trancending the lower. Beatrice outright trancended the totality of the Witch realm. And acended towards the gods realm. Shes an entire Cardinal above him.

@Zer00

Please format your message better the next time, its really hard to read.
 
I fixed the linkis (for some reason it always generates space between the letters and this breaks the links inside the words). Summing up what I said:

witches are 1-A by nature.

the difference of a witch from different planes is not infinite but immeasurable.

There are endless layers / witches known known as the hierarchy of witches.

At the top of the hierarchy is the Senate.

Lambdadelta, Bernkastel and perhaps Erika are witches of the Senate. Sayu was transcending his spirit and almost approaching the level of lambdadelta (not of the gods but of the senate).
 
First Witch and Eganergo, you guys are both wrong and right. Based on her profile, the Beatrice that you describing is rated At least High 1-C to 1-B, far higher via hax - for her second key - Higher layers (Meta World/Golden Land/City Of Books). She is not even comparable to Bernkastel nor Lambdadelta in this state.

After a further look, Beatrice at her untapped potential is 1-A for approaching Featherine Augustus Aurora's power-a High 1-A power-that is the only reason why it would a stomp. She might as well be rated as 1-A , Possibly higher in this state
 
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First Witch and Eganergo, you guys are both wrong and right.
Based on her profile, the Beatrice that you describing is rated At least High 1-C to 1-B, far higher via hax - for her second key - Higher layers (Meta World/Golden Land/City Of Books). She is not even comparable to Bernkastel nor Lambdadelta in this state.

After a further look, Beatrice at her untapped potential is 1-A for approaching Featherine Augustus Aurora's power-a High 1-A power-that is the only reason why it would a stomp.
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Ehhh... What? This match woudnt work if were not using 1A Beatrice, so i dont see your point?
 
DarkLK, I changed it to 1-A, Possibly higher, it not sure it would apply though.
 
First Witch, the reasoning that you were giving was for her (At least High 1-C to 1-B, far higher via hax)'s rating. It was not here 1-A reasoning so it would not apply.
 
Nedge1000 said:
First Witch, the reasoning that you were giving was for her (At least High 1-C to 1-B, far higher via hax)'s rating. It was not here 1-A reasoning so it would not apply.
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How did you reach that conclusion? Even the OP said were using the 1A keys.
 
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