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yes, I think it makes sense to see the whole debate and comments, I'm starting to agree.
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Ben 10 - Low 1-C Time Stream Proposal
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my friend, Reiner, I agree with your arguments, by the way, your name is really after my younger brotherI'll take it as you changed your vote to agree, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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Mav, I just want to apologise for being rude to you, I was not in right mind at that time because of few things which shouldn't be a reason to be angry with you, I am specifically sorry about that. Hope you aren't sad because of me...
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She is perfectionist for a reason, she never gets aggravated at everyone, tho she already linked the reasons, so I don't think she is angry.
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@Problemexe also agreed off site now and told me I can add her.
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I am kinda still curious what is opinion of @Everything12 after all of this.
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Her? You want me to disagree again?
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Since the arguments have evolved, i might agree, can someone summarize the timestream being infinite compared to the black space?
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Do it (for me please)
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The space beyond is bigger than 2A structures to the point it dwarfs them to just being a star or ant, all 2A's are of equal size, infinite × 2A = single 2A as infinite is just such a concept that multiplication won't give you any higher result and it's even stated in our FAQ and confirmed by ultima and DT on multiple occasions, to be bigger than a 2A structure means you are infact even bigger than infinite × 2A as both of them have same size and hence space beyond is uncountable infinite aka low 1C.
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I think the best definition is that a set of infinite universes (2-A) is finite for the "space beyond" perspective which means that the space beyond qualifies for tier Low 1-C.
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Hi Elizhaa 
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4:2, 4 in agreement and 2 in disagreement.
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Agree: @Firestorm808, @Dereck03, @DarkDragonMedeus , @Elizhaa ,
Disagree: @Maverick_Zero_X , @Everything12
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And just to add a note, many ppls are waiting for ultima as well for the confirmation, almost everyone is fine with visual as it is supported by statements. So if you can call him it'll be big help.
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@Firestorm808 @Dereck03 @DarkDragonMedeus @Elizhaa @Maverick_Zero_X @Everything12
Do you still have the same viewpoints as described above?
@Ultima_Reality
Your input would also be appreciated here.
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Yeah, I'm still agreeing with the OP.
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Yes.
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with that alien x becomes low 1-C or will there be another debate?
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No. This is a cosmology discussion thread. Scaling will be done in a different thread.
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I see, for me it's perfect and I hope I'm still alive to finally see alien x coming out of 3D
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If this CRT passes, I would like one of you to update the cosmology page.
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Yes, I still think the same.
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Tbf, i guess this supports the contumelia and the barrier being 5D and vice versa
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Yes.
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I will update the blog accordingly.
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Im assuming that you will do the scaling upgrade in a separate thread
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Any relevant scalings will be done in a different thread.
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@Everything12
@Maverick_Zero_X
The initial concerns brought up were the following:
All that FAQ section says is that you can't get beyond baseline 2-A AP through comsology size alone.
As for what Ultima said. An infinite multiverse being so small compared to yourself that you can't percieve it is a qualitive difference. What you have presented is no such thing.
The proposal has since been revised to address these concerns.
Please tell us if these concerns have been addressed. If not, can you elaborate on why?
Do you have any new concerns that need to be addressed?
@Maverick_Zero_X
The initial concerns brought up were the following:
All that FAQ section says is that you can't get beyond baseline 2-A AP through comsology size alone.
As for what Ultima said. An infinite multiverse being so small compared to yourself that you can't percieve it is a qualitive difference. What you have presented is no such thing.
The proposal has since been revised to address these concerns.
Please tell us if these concerns have been addressed. If not, can you elaborate on why?
Do you have any new concerns that need to be addressed?
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Possible if you could make it an official page?
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I'll look into the matter once this thread is concluded.
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