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Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

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Ben Tennyson 2-A upgrade

Mad Ben and Albedo's profiles say that they're 2-A with Omnitrix self destruction Ben Prime also has an omnitrix with a self destruct mode, so he should be 2-A with self destruction as well Agree: Neutral: Disagree:
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Another Ben CRT
 
Why does the sword of Ascalon have its speed as "unknown"? Even the Annihilargh used to have Unknown speed. They're both objects that can't really move on their own
 
I rewrote Ben 10's discussion rule to polish up its spelling and grammar.
  • Do not try to upgrade the cosmology or the cast to 1-B based on the statements from the Naljians or their toy. Although one of the them stated that "there are only 26 dimensions that matter", there is not enough sufficient evidence to scale them to such level, as they only have one appearance and statement in the entire series, and the mentioning of dimensions doesn't automatically fit the criteria in our Tiering System for the purpose of tiering.
In addition, although the Naljian toy was stated to be more advanced than the Omnitrix, when it replicated Gwen Tennyson's form, it displayed a clear inability to copy her powers accurately, instead using pink disks to replace the energy disks. As such, it is very difficult to imagine that it can copy the powers of a Celestialsapien when it could not fully replicate the powers of a lower tier species.
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This rule was added at https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discussion_Rules?diff=7177637&oldid=7173484 from https://vsbattles.com/threads/profile-deletion-requests-thread-new-forum.107528/post-3857367. It's fine, but it could use some links and copy editing.
@Antvasima @Firestorm808 Should I apply the following rewrite?
*Do not attempt to upgrade the cosmology or the cast to 1-B [[vsforum:threads/107528/post-3857367|based on]] the statements from the Naljians or about their toy. First, although one told [[Ben Tennyson (Original)|Ben]], "[There are] [o]nly 26 [dimensions] that matter," this statement is insufficient to scale them to such a level. They only have one mention in the entire series, and the mere mention of dimensions doesn't automatically meet the criteria for qualitative superiority. Second, even though [[Kevin Levin|Kevin]] claimed the Naljian toy was more advanced than the Omnitrix, it failed to accurately copy [[Gwen Tennyson (Original)|Gwen Tennyson]]'s energy disks when it replicated her form, replacing them with pink disks. It would be unreasonable to assume it can copy the powers of [[Celestialsapiens]] when it couldn't accurately replicate those of an infinitesimally weaker species.
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Do you guys say 10 year old Ben fighting UAF Ben in the forge of creation is an outlier? Pretty sure he harmed human UAF Ben and fought NRG as Heatblast
 
DemonicDude said:
Sup people, preparing for exams. decided to hop in So any particular interesting match going on or anything?
Been a couple of days since I've used this site
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Overflow vs Flame Princess (0-0-0)

Starting distance is 100 meters Speed is equalized Battle takes place in an empty city Overflow has prior knowledge of Flame Princess' Attack Potency Win condition is death or incapacitation Omni-Enhanced Overflow vs Great Gum War Flame Queen Who wins? Water Guy: Fire Gal: Inconclusive:
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I made a match with Overflow if you're interested
 
I'm trying to apply accepted changes to Vilgax's profile. He has self sustenance in his UAF key, but should it be in his OS key too? He survived being thrown into space by Way Big and came back later. He was also seen flying through space in AF, but I think that even though that scene was in AF, him surviving being thrown into space by Way Big in OS is enough to justify him having self sustenance for his OS key as well
 
He only had it in OS because of cybernetics, for AF it's because of the powers he absorbed. Chimerans can't breathe in space as confirmed by Myaax
 
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He only had it in OS because of cybernetics, for AF it's because of the powers he absorbed. Chimerans can't breathe in space as confirmed by Myaax
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Oh, alright. Should he still have resistance to extreme cold and cosmic radiations for surviving being thrown into space by Way Big?
 
Do you guys accept the Ben 10 Flash games as canon? Was thinking about looking into them for ability additions if they're accepted as canon due to there being infinite alternate timelines and stuff
 
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XLR8 Upgrade

The justification for his speed in his OV key is "at least as fast as before" I think that his speed for his OV key should therefore say "at least Relativistic with Relativistic+ reactions". Especially since XLR8 10000 can travel across the entire globe, proving that he gets stronger with age...
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XLR8 content revision thread
 
Why do the pages for Ben's aliens list their ages as Unknown? Shouldn't they be the exact same age as Ben? Except for Alien X, every other transformation should be the same age as Ben
 
Spilxson2 said:
Do you guys accept the Ben 10 Flash games as canon? Was thinking about looking into them for ability additions if they're accepted as canon due to there being infinite alternate timelines and stuff
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On this website No !
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Crossovers

A crossover is the placement of two or more characters originating from different continuities/franchises/verses into a single story. Non-canon crossovers do not officially take place within any of the involved continuities. Examples may include Marvel Vs Capcom, Mortal Kombat Vs DC Universe, or...
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There are strict rules that are only events that are referenced 100% should be taken into account from both sides.

As far as other individual goes well.... Different people have different personal opinions, some considered the entire cartoon Network as the worst to be part of Benton Omniverse since cartoon Network shows are all connected which we learned from crossover Nexus as far as flash games are concerned they're probably part of the Ben 10 massive omniverse, But here on this site no. (It's against the rules)
 
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Possible Wildvine Lifting Strength Upgrade

In the Secret of the Omnitrix movie, a group of Wildvine's species was able to briefly restrain OS Four Arms. Wildvine is a prime version of their species so he's possibly comparable to them. Should his lifting strength be upgraded? Agree: Marvel_Champion_07 Disagree: Neutral:
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So Wildvine's Lifting Strength being "At most Class K" via downscaling from Four Arms has been accepted. But there are also other characters like Snare-Oh and Rook who have Lifting Strength as Class 5 due to feats from Wildvine. Should their Lifting Strength be upgraded to downscale from Class K as well?
 
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