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Just check on YouTube how Alien X recreated the universe, everything is blatantly shown.
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Ben 10 - Alien X Infinite Attack Speed
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Galaxies are not attacks plus they moved finite distances shown on screen.
They moved that way doesn't prove they moved infinite distance, you can't know if something moved through infinite distance by visuals alone, what's shown on screen are clearly finite distance movement.
Alien X has infinite range for him to recreate the universe and MFTL+ for moving galaxies.
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Yeah, the galaxies aren't attacks and weren't even used in such way, Alien X moved galaxies finite distances then created everything completely.
The galaxies feat is just MFTL+ and Alien X has that range to recreate an infinite universe.
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When and where?
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We clearly see reality begin to form completely from Alien X after he moved those galaxies.
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We saw milkey way galaxy created the same way all other galaxies does, do you have proof that creation of milkey way galaxy was any different than other galaxies? Milkey way galaxy attains their form right where alien x was standing and didn't had to move anywhere else like others.
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yes, but the distance was not finite
we give him infinite attack speed for telekinesis which he has used in combat, aslo attack speed is just the speed of a power not
because he had to be moving them to other universes as well like rex's dimension
no he only created the milkyway, why would he create and move a select handful of galaxies and then create the rest of the universe, it doesn't make any sense. It's the milkyway since how is he going to move a galaxy on top of himself
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I had the thought the milky-way was the full creation of the universe and forgot it's just another galaxy like the rest, my apologies.
Still that would be range than Attack speed.
The galaxy moving feat is range than attack speed.
It's range would be infinite though doesn't necessarily mean it should be attack speed.
Yeah I was wrong on that, admitted it above.
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It has been accepted as attack speed long before when alien X was just MFTL+. Sending things to another point via telekinetically with some speed is attack speed.
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Honestly, why isn't this just range? You could move infinite amount of objects at a finite speed if you have the range. Why take a sum of the distance all the objects moved?
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... Infinite amount of galaxies won't be in the finite space ever, neither any 2 galaxies would be at same place ever, many of those galaxies will reach a infinite distance anyway.
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Wait, did he actually move an infinite number of galaxies?
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That's what has been shown, yes.
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No, this is due to the fact he had to move the galaxy with his telekinesis (which he has used in combat) to other universes which are an infinite distance away in a finite time
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Mate it sounds throwing speed rather attack speed
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Throwing speed is attack speed my girl
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Scan? Was it saif he created infinite galaxies? I find it hard to imagine how infinite galaxies will be portrayed visually
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No they are different. DT already made it clear. Unless you are not updated.Throwing speed is attack speed my girl
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It won't ever, that's why we take the process same for all as for what has been shown. That's the reason each Dimension of ben 10 has been accepted to be infinite in size because known Dimensions are infinite. All galaxies or atleast what that has been shown has been shown to move telekinetically to their places, so infinite as well unless proven otherwise.
Where?
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So because the universe is infinite we assume he created infinite galaxies or is it because there are infinite dimensions and he created the galaxies in those dimensions as well?
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He sent all those galaxies from inside himself to all other places in the universe, that's what has been shown. Number of galaxies is infinite.
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Don't really know how telekinetically moving an object at infinite speed grants the character itself infinite speed, that'd just be infinite speed for his telekinesis.
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Infinite I guess until proven otherwise then. Now, why assume the galaxies physically crossed into other dimensions? He could've only moved the one's in his and directly created the others in those dimensions.
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Yes, alien X attack speed being infinite comes via telekinesis.
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There were a calculation discussion thread abt it.
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Dunno girl, we follow standards unless removed.
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Only spacetime was shown to be created first, matter moved and been created later on. Also, either he moves galaxies all across his Dimension or to other, both will grant infinite speed for the fact that Dimensions itself are infinite with infinite number of galaxies inside them.
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Then the rating seems fine
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The telekinesis has that range though it wasn't used as any form of attack during the galaxy stuff but you can just put possibly "infinite attack speed via telekinesis"
I'm just skeptical since it use wasn't in form of an attack that's why I believe it to be range feat.
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We give rating of speed via telekinesis, Wang Ling and many other profile has it. Moving an object via anything is attack speed as long as we can move it with some speed. Galaxies, planets, stars or whatever, they all can be used in vs matches, because we don't hold matches in void but characters with power nullification towards telekinesis can render alien X infinite speed useless.
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An action doesn't need to be an offensive attack to get indexed as speed.
For example, Lucifer in DC has a speed feat for reading large number of books in short amount of time. Sisters of Fate in GoW have feat where they multitask via weaving and cutting infinite threads simultaneously.
If A/B/C phenomenon travels X/Y/Z distance or is a multitasking feat then, it has that level of respective speed. What else is it reliably scales to is upto context. For example only attack speed or reflexes etc.
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Hmmm makes sense.
Attack speed clearly means speed of an attack.
He read a creation history in the blink of an eye that's perception speed, besides why mention all these?
Anyways i kinda agreeing with reiner but not fully convinced.
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His was used as an attack though in OPM.
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Alien X has used telekinesis before in the fight against amalgam kids just like Geryuganshoop, but Geryuganshoop attack speed doesn't come from his fight against saitama but from the WOG.
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If something moves it can be given speed, doesn't matter if it's an offensive attack or lovely air kiss sent by a hottie.
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It's just arguementum infinitum, don't take 2 cents to know there is no one else doing anything but alien x himself.
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