Ben 10 Ability Additions (for some characters)

[Vietthai96]

Starbeard confirmed that the Universe and everything in it was destroyed including it's specific laws of physics. And also all the above mentioned abilities are part of the creation explosion.

i saw the two videos, and nothing say when the universe is destroyed, law and physics would also get destroyed, Professor Paradox just said something about the law of physics in the next universe being counter-intuitive or something when eh.......Ben asked him, so sorry i do not change my mind

When get hit by a truck, you also get hit with it's cargo.

and this is just physical feat, law is complete abstract thing

like i said, by this logic, everyone get physics resistance or something more abstract resistance cause when the universe is boom, these things also went with it, cause by default, these things are bound to the universe, we don't give resistances like this. That why i asked is there proofs (contexts, scan that when the universe go boom, is the destroyed physics and law affects anyone??, or it is just simply, universe get destroyed?

Could you check the new Higher Dimensional Manipulation proofs for AX and Paradox

Higher-Dimensional Manipulation as an ability already get deleted, replaced by Dimensional Manipulation with new standard, you should read the page

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

i saw the two videos, and nothing say when the universe is destroyed, law and physics would also get destroyed, Professor Paradox just said something about the law of physics in the next universe being counter-intuitive or something when eh.......Ben asked him, so sorry i do not change my mind

The Paradox video was for all universes has law and physics and Starbeard literally claimed " you recrate the universe and everything with in it" this also includes law of physics, so Annihilarg destroyed the entire universe and everything with in it, Ben had to recrate them.

Higher-Dimensional Manipulation as an ability already get deleted, replaced by Dimensional Manipulation with new standard, you should read the page

Yeah i'm aware from that but in profiles it still mentoined as "Higher Dimensional Manipulation"

 

[Vietthai96]

The Paradox video was for all universes has law and physics and Starbeard literally claimed " you recrate the universe and everything with in it" this also includes law of physics, so Annihilarg destroyed the entire universe and everything with in it, Ben had to recrate them.

i mean, i do not disagree with creation or recreation, but the claim that since the universe have these law and physics stuff, so if someone survive its destruction mean he or she should resists these law and physics stuffs is.................extraordinary claim, which require extraordinary evidences, rather than assumption. Let not say that i could well argue that "you recreate the universe and everything in it" just mean life, physical objects and not thing such as law and physics, law and physics is a part of the universe not in it, but that pretty too hard argument from me so i will refrain using it, for now

Yeah i'm aware from that but in profiles it still mentoined as "Higher Dimensional Manipulation"

then it should change to Dimensional Manipulation, and reevaluate it according to the new standard

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

i saw the two videos, and nothing say when the universe is destroyed, law and physics would also get destroyed, Professor Paradox just said something about the law of physics in the next universe being counter-intuitive or something when eh.......Ben asked him, so sorry i do not change my mind

This is after Ben went to court for the recreation for his Universe and everything in it. Belecus states that the Universe and everything was in it was destroyed. And each Universe has it's own laws of physics.

and this is just physical feat, law is complete abstract thing

This was just a analogy to simplify what I was saying.

like i said, by this logic, everyone get physics resistance or something more abstract resistance cause when the universe is boom, these things also went with it, cause by default, these things are bound to the universe, we don't give resistances like this. That why i asked is there proofs (contexts, scan that when the universe go boom, is the destroyed physics and law affects anyone??, or it is just simply, universe get destroyed?

The Universe and everything in it. Stated numerous times by Starbeard, Belecus and other characters.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

i mean, i do not disagree with creation or recreation, but the claim that since the universe have these law and physics stuff, so if someone survive its destruction mean he or she should resists these law and physics stuffs is.................extraordinary claim, which require extraordinary evidences, rather than assumption. Let not say that i could well argue that "you recreate the universe and everything in it" just mean life, physical objects and not thing such as law and physics, law and physics is a part of the universe not in it, but that pretty too hard argument from me so i will refrain using it, for now

It destroyed the entire universe not just everything in it as you say law and physics are a part of the universe

then it should change to Dimensional Manipulation, and reevaluate it according to the new standard

Sure i don't have a problem with that

 

[Aolphl]

I have other proofs for HDE. Paradox using Chrono Navigator can destroy all existence including higher-dimensional beings, such as Contumelia which are 5-D beings or Omega Beings who is Higher-D beings (not infinite-D beings, lol), and he also can destroy 26-D which is stated to be higher-dimensional spaces.
Note: I found this argument of HDM on Scourge's profile so thought of applying it over here with this argument.

That's a normal AP feat

 

[REX9097]

That's a normal AP feat

Scourge take HDE via affect and destroy Higher-D beings and spaces, and Chrono Navigator and Alien X can do the same thing on Higher-D beings and 26 Higher-D.

 

[Aolphl]

Scourge take HDE via affect and destroy Higher-D beings and spaces, and Chrono Navigator and Alien X can do the same thing on Higher-D beings and 26 Higher-D.

DM is usually about changing the dimensionality of something. If I was destroying it by changing the dimensionality of a character, that would be DM, but destroying only higher dimensional beings without any context is only an AP feat.
And also;

Note that only dimensions in a mathematical sense are included, not manipulations of hierarchical spaces merely equivalent to such, and neither does affecting entire timelines, as without further context it could be classified as an AP feat or a range feat for a particular ability.

Dimensional Manipulation

Dimensional Manipulation is the ability to manipulate the dimensions that aren't limited to just three-dimensional space. Its possible applications include being able to warp the dimensionality of a target to a higher or lower dimension, being capable of phasing someone in and out of existence...

vsbattles.fandom.com

That's all.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

DM is usually about changing the dimensionality of something. If I was destroying it by changing the dimensionality of a character, that would be DM, but destroying only higher dimensional beings without any context is only an AP feat.
And also;

Dimensional Manipulation

Dimensional Manipulation is the ability to manipulate the dimensions that aren't limited to just three-dimensional space. Its possible applications include being able to warp the dimensionality of a target to a higher or lower dimension, being capable of phasing someone in and out of existence...

vsbattles.fandom.com

That's all.

But in Scourge's profile the feat only comes with the destruction feat, i don't know if the profile is outdated

 

[REX9097]

DM is usually about changing the dimensionality of something. If I was destroying it by changing the dimensionality of a character, that would be DM, but destroying only higher dimensional beings without any context is only an AP feat.
And also;

Dimensional Manipulation

Dimensional Manipulation is the ability to manipulate the dimensions that aren't limited to just three-dimensional space. Its possible applications include being able to warp the dimensionality of a target to a higher or lower dimension, being capable of phasing someone in and out of existence...

vsbattles.fandom.com

That's all.

This is what we see in Alien X and Paradox where Paradox made the FOC, outside spacetime and space beyond, which is the highest form of existence and made FOC entirely unreachable/inaccessible by anything even from 5-D beings and also allowed FOC to become BDE Type 1, this means that Paradox separated FOC from Higher-D spaces (Space Beyond/Omniverse) and made FOC into Beyond-D which supports it as HDE.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Bump?

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Who is gonna make Atomix vs Clockwork

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Bump!

 

[Hellformer]

Come on, get this thread accepted

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Come on, get this thread accepted

Fr we need 2 more staff votes

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Fr we need 2 more staff votes

You already have a staff vote. You'll just need one more and you should be fine.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

BUMP!

 

[Firestorm808]

Diamondhead,Chromastone and Tetrax:
Attack reflection for Diamondhead,Chromastone and Tetrax they already have been mentioned but not as a general ability just in desc
(Diamondhead reflected the beam generated by Vilgax’s robot in episode 1

Chromastone reflected the beam generated by Cash)

Seems okay.

Lucubra:
Emphatic manipulation (A Lucubra has the ability to feed on the thoughts of humans. Gwen states that it feeds on the part of the mind used to pray or meditate until there is nothing left of the victim's mind. The victim then becomes its obedient servant.)

Is there another profile that considers "consuming" emotions as manip?

Upgrade:
Data manipulation: Can control the entire game world as Upgrade while he was inside the Sumo Slammers game.

Okay.

Statistics Amplification: Everything he upgrades becomes better and stronger.

I suppose.

Immortality (Type 3) He already has regeneration on his profile.

What scans are being used for the regen?

Fourarms:
Fourarms sound manipulation (Created sound waves with his hands)

Do we consider thunderclaps as both Vibration and Sound manip or just vibration?

Fourarms attack reflection (Reflected Gwen’s mana blast)

Okay.

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Immortality (Type 3) He already has regeneration on his profile.

What scans are being used for the regen?

When he gets shot into into a liquid state by an attack chopper.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Lucubra:
Emphatic manipulation (A Lucubra has the ability to feed on the thoughts of humans. Gwen states that it feeds on the part of the mind used to pray or meditate until there is nothing left of the victim's mind. The victim then becomes its obedient servant.)

Is there another profile that considers "consuming" emotions as manip?

They feed on someones mental positive energy

Do we consider thunderclaps as both Vibration and Sound manip or just vibration?

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The way to defeat-affect the monster was sound, he wasn't getting affected by another physcial attacks

 

[Aolphl]

This is what we see in Alien X and Paradox where Paradox made the FOC, outside spacetime and space beyond, which is the highest form of existence and made FOC entirely unreachable/inaccessible by anything even from 5-D beings and also allowed FOC to become BDE Type 1, this means that Paradox separated FOC from Higher-D spaces (Space Beyond/Omniverse) and made FOC into Beyond-D which supports it as HDE.

I'm sure this is a Range or Environmental Destruction feat, I'll still wait for the staffs.

 

[OMNIVERSAL-KING]

This is what we see in Alien X and Paradox where Paradox made the FOC, outside spacetime and space beyond, which is the highest form of existence and made FOC entirely unreachable/inaccessible by anything even from 5-D beings and also allowed FOC to become BDE Type 1, this means that Paradox separated FOC from Higher-D spaces (Space Beyond/Omniverse) and made FOC into Beyond-D which supports it as HDE.

It's not like this
He just created a barrier between realms having space-time and FoC . FoC is source of omniverse while omnivrse is a realm that can be called spatial and temporal

 

[REX9097]

It's not like this
He just created a barrier between realms having space-time and FoC . FoC is source of omniverse while omnivrse is a realm that can be called spatial and temporal

Doesn't that mean that Paradox separated realms from FOC?

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

BUMP!

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Diamondhead,Chromastone and Tetrax:
Attack reflection for Diamondhead,Chromastone and Tetrax they already have been mentioned but not as a general ability just in desc
(Diamondhead reflected the beam generated by Vilgax’s robot in episode 1

Chromastone reflected the beam generated by Cash)

Seems okay.

Lucubra:
Emphatic manipulation (A Lucubra has the ability to feed on the thoughts of humans. Gwen states that it feeds on the part of the mind used to pray or meditate until there is nothing left of the victim's mind. The victim then becomes its obedient servant.)

Is there another profile that considers "consuming" emotions as manip?

Upgrade:
Data manipulation: Can control the entire game world as Upgrade while he was inside the Sumo Slammers game.

Okay.

Statistics Amplification: Everything he upgrades becomes better and stronger.

I suppose.

Immortality (Type 3) He already has regeneration on his profile.

What scans are being used for the regen?

Fourarms:
Fourarms sound manipulation (Created sound waves with his hands)

Do we consider thunderclaps as both Vibration and Sound manip or just vibration?

Fourarms attack reflection (Reflected Gwen’s mana blast)

Okay.

I don't want to disturb you but can you check the others too because i won't be able to follow this crt in a few day ( i have to go to university)

 

[Firestorm808]

They feed on someones mental positive energy


The way to defeat-affect the monster was sound, he wasn't getting affected by another physcial attacks

That... didn't answer my questions.

 

[Firestorm808]

I don't want to disturb you but can you check the others too because i won't be able to follow this crt in a few day ( i have to go to university)

Will get to them when available.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

That... didn't answer my questions.

I don't know about if there are similiar profiles actually

 

[Success0906]

I don't know about if there are similiar profiles actually

He is asking for scans, I believe.

 

[REX9097]

I don't know about if there are similiar profiles actually

He is able to rebuild his body after losing a large part of it.

Comparable to Malware, who can brought his body back again even after it was completely destroyed (Ben 10: Omniverse, "Showdown: Part 1" )

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

He is asking for scans, I believe.

he is asking for other profiles if they has something similiar to these

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Bump

 

[Success0906]

he is asking for other profiles if they has something similiar to these

Just read, my bad. Yes, consuming emotions can be considered as an ability. There are several actually, just have to find them.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Bump!

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Bump!!!!!!!!

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Bump